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mazdastyle2003 December-21st-2003 04:35 PM

91 escort/ 92 protege
 
i have a 92 protege dx and i found a 91 escort lx. my tranny is screwed in my protege and i was wonder ing if the 1.9 engine and the tranny out of the escort would work?

elscotto80 December-22nd-2003 11:36 AM

No sir, the escort lx is a ford tranny, the protege is a mazda one. Wont work.

fst323 December-26th-2003 06:59 PM


Originally posted by elscotto80
No sir, the escort lx is a ford tranny, the protege is a mazda one. Wont work.
thats not what he asked. he asked if the engine and tranny would fit. and yes they will. i believe you will have to swap ECU's and harnesses as well, but before you do that, dont. the 1.9 is more gutless than the 1.8. just my $0.02...

nickgomez December-26th-2003 08:16 PM

The Escort GT (1.8 BP engine) transmission should fit right?

fst323 December-28th-2003 09:01 PM

yes, the Ford and Mazda BP series trannys are one and the same. :)

RX7_2ner January-8th-2004 11:28 PM


Originally posted by elscotto80
No sir, the escort lx is a ford tranny, the protege is a mazda one. Wont work.
the lx had two different transmissions. one made by mazda and one made by ford. neither of those will work. the 1.9 is really gutless. my friend has a 92 escort lx with many mods including cam, cam gear, reburned ecu or chip-im not sure, dual friction clutch, shaved head, port and polish, intake, header and 2 1/4" exhaust and he ran a 17.3 in the 1/4. the pro dx does 4 tenths of a second better than that stock.

Protoss January-9th-2004 12:43 AM

the 1.9L and the 1.8L share that same bolt pattern, so the trannies are interchangable. the 1.9 will fit in the protege engine bay,but most escort owners with the 1.9, swap in the BP (1.8L DOHC)

SgtRauksauff January-12th-2004 10:09 AM

the 91-96 Escort LX transmission (I think it's a G5M) will NOT bolt to the BP found in the 90-94 protege LX, or the 91-96 Escort GT (this is a G25M, i believe).
Since the 90-94 Protege DX Block is the same as the LX, the G5M from a 1.9L ford engine will not fit the DX either.

You can swap in the whole 1.9 and tranny, but you'll need to do some significant rewiring. the 1.9 is a distributorless system, so you'll need to change not only the engine harness with sensors, but pretty much all the wiring from the fender to under the dash. you'll also need to change to the escort LX spindles, since the protege spindles have a different spline count. And other stuff will need to be changed, maybe power steering pump/pulley/lines, ac pump/pulley/lines, and the exhaust will need a slight massage probably.

It would be a big project that would be a gigantic PITA.

The 1.9 isn't really that bad. If it's tuned right, the thing will fly. With all the modifications on the escort mentioned by RX7_2ner, either the guy needs to take it to a dyno and tune it right, or was lugging around a bunch of extra weight (aka massive amps/subs, rolling on heavy rims) or just couldn't drive the thing properly...

I have the 1.9 in my wagon, and it's a great engine for what it is, and how detuned ford's made it. I haven't taken it to the drag track, but it pretty much kicks ass at autocrosses and lapping days.. :)


--sarge

elscotto80 January-12th-2004 01:07 PM

And if you have the 1.9, and blow it, there are tons and tons at the junkyards that can be had real cheap, not to mention the SPI's.

mannydingo February-10th-2004 01:02 AM

Brock, what's your opinion on what SgtRauksauff said above. Instead of buying that 92 Protege with bad tranny, I bought a 91 Escort LX that I got for $200. The Protege was in bad shape and this Escort is in nice shape for repairing. I want to put my automatic tranny from the 94 Protege DX on this 91 Escort LX(similar to post starter but the other way around). What's the final word? Is it interchangeable and if it is, do I have to do all that work SgtRauksauff mentioned? I see you did some swap with an auto tranny. Thanks

Protoss February-10th-2004 04:56 AM

hmmm. well i'd take the SgtR's word for it. i was going on what info that had dribble down to me of the 1.9L sohc ford engine. unless it is a 1.8L it tranny's wont bolt.

mannydingo February-10th-2004 06:06 PM

So let me get this straight. What I've heard so many times, as you have from what you said, this 91-96 Escort to 90-94 Protege interchangability being so easy and fit-for-fit is actually not so? Also, you're saying that you probably agree that the Escort 1.9 SOHC is not going to be a simple unplug here and re-plug over there connection on the tranny swap from Pro to Esc? If this is the case, I just bit off more than I can chew. I didn't want this to be another darned workload or error. This $200 buy may not be such a buy any more if I have to do something like look for a tranny in a junkyard and the whole story after it.

elscotto80 February-10th-2004 08:36 PM

If this was me, I would drop in the DOHC BP and call it a day, Much more potential then the 1.9 and the SOHC 1.8.

mannydingo February-10th-2004 09:59 PM

I'm interested in just getting a second car so my wife and I don't have to keep wasting time taking each other everywhere. I would also prefer the DOHC but I already own a SOHC with its tranny. I am not about to go spend money on another engine when I have one already in the car and one outside. I need a second day to day car with the least expense possible. I need answers fast so tomorrow I can have this put in. I almost got that engine in a 92lx but the rest of the car wasn't worth putting the tranny in.

Oracle_SOD February-23rd-2004 10:37 PM

mmm iv never looked at the 1.9 engine.... but i know for a fact that all the B-series engines and the F and G series boxes are interchangable....


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