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200+ Hp '91 323 Se?

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Old February-18th-2003, 10:44 PM
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Well turbo1g is a good friend of mine and i know he knows his ****. hes had a turbo protege for years now and is a mechanic. i belive him and give him the respect he deserves. i think its wrong ****** attacks him and calls him a liar and trys to make him feel stupid. Glad to see jesse has a following. lol. Should i belive a Uptight little ***** or a Mechanic that races weekly and isn't known to lie to make himself look cool.. Hmmm hard choices...Jon
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Old February-18th-2003, 10:54 PM
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Originally posted by itzkcatz
Well turbo1g is a good friend of mine and i know he knows his ****. hes had a turbo protege for years now and is a mechanic. i belive him and give him the respect he deserves. i think its wrong ****** attacks him and calls him a liar and trys to make him feel stupid. Glad to see jesse has a following. lol. Should i belive a Uptight little ***** or a Mechanic that races weekly and isn't known to lie to make himself look cool.. Hmmm hard choices...Jon
You are one misguided little boy. I'm looking at both sides with no biases, unlike you who is obviously biased towards your friend. From my point of view, Jesse made better points in his areguement with you, and seems to know his stuff about other cars aswell. His points just plain make more sense.
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Old February-18th-2003, 10:57 PM
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Yeah nice u can pay 1100 dollars for a turbo bp with 100k or u can pay 1000 for a bpt with 36k. Iguess u trust mazda alot don't u ? keep dreaming his points are idiotic in my opinion pay 100 more for a better head yet the motor has weaker everything .. Goodjob go turbo ur high milege bp and give it 50k ...Jon ....
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Originally posted by itzkcatz
Yeah nice u can pay 1100 dollars for a turbo bp with 100k or u can pay 1000 for a bpt with 36k. Iguess u trust mazda alot don't u ? keep dreaming his points are idiotic in my opinion pay 100 more for a better head yet the motor has weaker everything .. Goodjob go turbo ur high milege bp and give it 50k ...Jon ....
Stop trying to argue it.. your not getting anywhere with your much more idiotic points.
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Old February-18th-2003, 11:10 PM
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Yeah mine are . Did u take his dick out of ur mouth yet ? is jesse typing? ...Jon
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Originally posted by itzkcatz
Yeah mine are . Did u take his dick out of ur mouth yet ? is jesse typing? ...Jon
Are you 5? Grow up dude.
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Old February-18th-2003, 11:41 PM
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i figured this would be an intelligent post. looks like i figured wrong....
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Originally posted by celi85
i figured this would be an intelligent post. looks like i figured wrong....
I'm sorry for my contribution to making anyone who reads this, dumber.
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Old February-18th-2003, 11:50 PM
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Could someone please lock this thread? The question that was asked at the start of the thread has been answered. If you guys want to keep arguing, use the PM system. It is pointless as both of you repeat the same thing over and over again. Points have been made. And Jon, if there is a child that reads that reply, it would not be pleasant. Take others into consideration please.
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Point taken Sorry. Aim - itzkcatz . Jon
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you guys are retarded. someone close this theory session.
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Old February-19th-2003, 01:33 PM
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Omg Jesse u caught me with a runone sentence. Im so shocked!. If u haven't noticed i dont give a **** about it. When im tired drunk or rushing myself i never use periods or even try to use them. Please jesse stop. Im crying .. lol. stop trying to look cool infront of ur boyfriend. i know u have to take the male role in the relationship turns him on when u do this stuff. But please not online i have aol as i already stated itzkcatz use it or STFU... Jon
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Old February-19th-2003, 02:18 PM
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hmmmmmmmmmm. that was tons of fun to read........ i have some advice, and dont really care for a responce. jessie, your a mod, and i have read thread, upon thread of you telling people to take their arguments to the pm system. so take your own advice, and drop it. how do you expect the newbies, or anybody else to have respect for you as a mod, when your flaming people left and right, and arguring over stupid ****. and jon, do the same. its not worth getting all hot and bothered. now jessie i dont have any problems with you, i did a while back, when you threatened to hack a govt computer. cause i pissed you off. but now im pretty much just sick of seeing you flame people. just take it easy buddie. the only reason people get pissesd at you is because you have a comment about EVERYTHING, usually a smart *** one. just chill. it makes people hate this forem, and leave it. and thats just my .02 cents.
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Old February-19th-2003, 03:13 PM
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I think this is a worthy arguement as long as they keep it about the BPT vs the Turbo'd BP. I'm learning excellent points from both sides. Just try to cut out the personal stuff guys and keep up the discussion.
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Old February-19th-2003, 03:32 PM
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IMO. I have a 93 lx dohc protege. I knew i wanted it to be a Turbo protege so i looked into both areas. My BP has 96,572 miles on it and it clicks like a bitch has just started burning oil. Now it may not be anything big but in my eyes i dont want to turbo charge that motor. I will def put a good 30-40k on my car with the turbo maybe even more. I dont wanna force induct a motor that is already having signs of old age. Now IMO if u have a GOOD running bp motor in your car by ALL means turbo charge it if u feel safe with racing a motor with high miles. I know a bp motor sells for 400-500 and a Vj-20 turbo and manifold sells for 500 the injectors in a lx protege will not handle enough to get u too 200 whp. So u need new injectors (GTX injectors) so add another 150. Great now u have a 1100 dollar turbo setup which isnt bad. Or u can just buy a BPT motor which has stronger internals comes with injectors turbo and manifold for 1000 shipped to most places. The bpt will have 34-40ish k. As for the head being better it doesnt make that much of a difference at 200 hp. Maybe like 1 or 2 psi. And for gas mileage ive read posts on here of BPT motors getting 28-30 mpg. As for that guy geting so much power in his bp he prob had a standalone so he didn't blow his motor up with carefull tuning. Now the Question of the 200 hp 91 323 se IMO the best motor for it would be a B6T. I think it came with around 130hp but with a couple mods its easy to make it push 180-200. I think if u buy it depending on the person u will be happy then want more power. So in the long run ur better off buying a bpt not a bp. As for Jesse i don't like u. I never have liked u and i will never like u u are a cocky **** bastard and i pray to god i never see u in person . Everyone was complaining about how expensive it is to get a turbo protege. Some saying it will cost 4-5000 dollars to get there car fast. Well Braden just gave u all a good deal for 1300 a BPt and ecu with a couple hundred more u could have a turbo protege running 13's for 2000 dollars.. Jon
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