GB: AEM ecu for 2.0L Protege starts NOW
 

Ladies and Gentleman for those in "the know" there has been a lot of discussion about an actual USEABLE ems (engine management system) for the proteges. It seems we as a community are crippled by the horrible tuning and restrictions put on us by the ECU. This is no longer the case. Wagner Motorsports is starting it's pre-sell on the AEM ecu at special group buy pricing. Before I get into pricing I want to explain further what the AEM can do.

The AEM ecu is one of the most popular EMS units in the world due to it's full controll over EVERY aspect of the car. It is super easy to tune (although you won't see me trying to tinker with it!) and it can be the single most important thing you ever add to your protege. The AEM will controll all of your standard ammenities such as AC, stereo, etc...all of the creature comforts you have now will still be there. On top of this it will give the end user full control over fuel mapping, ignition timing, full coil controll, full MAF control, emissions control, BUILT-IN DYNO!!, etc. Any modification you have made to your car will be enhanced by this unit and I don't mean just a little. Your AEM will be custom tuned to your specific mods prior to being shipped out to you. When you order is placed you will have to list the mod's you've made and what gas you plan on running. The AEM is pre-programmed for 93 octane. Wagner Motorsports Will provide FREE software upgrades as you continue to modify your vehicle so you are not stuck with your initial tuning maps. This will be free for as long as you own the unit.

What is included:

* AEM plug and play ECU

* custom wiring harness for the mazda protege (no splicing needed)

* exhaust cam gear (must be replaced....pm me for more info)

* pre-set tuning map designed for YOUR car

* Lifetime FREE software upgrades

* Discounted rate of $100 for a new harness should you want to transfer it into another vehicle.

* Buy-Back program should you decide not to use the ecu anymore (details to be finalized)

* The ability to no longer feel hesitation/stumble/bad mileage/ sluggish acceleration/ no top-end power


The group buy starts today and interested parties (SERIOUSLY INTERESTED) should sign up under my name as I do. Please keep my thread clean so new buyers will not have to dig through junk to get new info. Thanks.

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As with my cam GB, 5 buyers are needed to retain special GB pricing.

GROUP BUY SPECIAL $1495
REATIL COST $1595

I also have two different options of wideband controlers for those with rubo cars (msp's /mp3/p5 turbos). These will work in-line with the AEM to actually control knock and timing, etc...THE ULTIMATE IN TURBO TUNING! Also, the AEM will control boost if you purchase an additonal boost solenoid and some vaccuum line for about $30. For those interested in the wideband i will provide full details through pm...general details are:

regular Wideband controller $250
Eugo WB with display 1V (controlled by AEM) $410w/free shipping

DAMNIT!! I NEED MONEY!!!!!

and some new tires. = )

*EDIT* TODAY IS DYNO DAY. Results to be posted ASAP.

I am definately interested now because I saw some of the additional goodies coming along with the ECU. But a couple things are going to hinder me for a bit. 1) Cash flow is a bit on the slow side and 2) Im kinda in the process of switching jobs so I have to see what my money situation is going to be like. But other than that I am definately interested. Just a question though: once the 1.6 liter ECU gets made, how am I going to get a replacement exhaust cam gear if none are available for my engine size Pro?

The ecu is universal....it will plug and play on your car (with the exception of the cam gear) and work just fine. The ECU has been optimized and tuned specificaly for use on the 2.0L motor so it will see a bigger performance increase than an un-tuned 1.6L.

To tune for a 1.6L I wouldn't expect it to take more than a week once the shop is able to locate a test mule. Remember, like I stated in the description this ECU is fully transferable to almost any other car on the road. If you felt comfortable with it you could tune it yourself.

As for the cam gear, I'm unsure how that will be approached. The reason for the new cam gear on the 2.0L motor is that it has 3 magnetic pick-ups that send signals to the stock ecu. the AEM will only see one pick-up so a new cam gear has to be custom machined specfically for this. This may be very detrimental to putting it into your car if you have the same cam-gear situation....if you dont it will be strictly p&p!

So if I get lucky enough to find cam gears, where could I get it machined to work in conjunction with the AEM ECU?

what I'm saying is you may not need any cam gears. More research needs to be done to find out what you have before you start worrying about where you're going to get stuff....If you need a cam gear amchined we will pull one from a wrecked car and have it made for you.

Oh okay, now I gotcha. So as it turns out, the gear may not be necessary and I could just keep my stock ones, correct?

yup yup....we'll have to look into it deeper, but without another 1.6L protege near me my hands are tied.

Alright. Im willing to wait it out and see what happens.

don't wait....start saving now!

Believe you me. You know I will!! But I do have to say one thing though.......


DAMN YOU AND YOUR BLASTED PROTEGE PERFORMANCE PARTS!!!!!!

Im gonna be broke for like next to ever because of you!!

Wait until my website gets up.....I'm going to have a little bit of everything for the ro-to-ge.

I've spent a lot of money buying products to help me provide for this community. I just hope some of you guys actually help me back out and purchase some of this stuff. I spent close to $7K this month alone in upgrading my powdercoating and stocking new parts.

i guess i had reading comprehension problems...i didn't even notice this thread when we were discussing the AEM in the cams thread ;)

hehehe, makes a lot more sense now doesn't it!

I suppose I don't mind handing over some of my hard earned money to you. Its just a matter of waiting for it to get bigger before I make it smaller again!

I hear ya...my wife is a full time student so I have to pay the bills AND try to stock new stuff all the time...it's rough. Needless to say my car is left untouched until this stuff starts selling and I recoup a lot of my costs.

UPDATE
 

Ok, a little background story here. This is a head to head comparison of two NA p5's. One has an intake, HKS full exhaust, Sparkco wires, and MP3 ecu. the other is a bone stock P5 with just the AEM plugged in. The bonestock P5 dyno'd 95-98whp on the stock ecu prior to this test. I'll translate the results below.....oh yeah, both cars were running 87octane...even the mp3 ecu powered car. The AEM was not tuned for octane it was only tuned to stabilize the fuel and ignition timing. No performance enhacements were made. The dyno was just done as a preliminary base map. This will show you just how horrible the stock ecu is tuned from the factory.

after AEM running base map 87 octane
 

Look at the power now..

It bumps to 112whp / 122lb/ft on the stock P5 with 87 octane on the base map....I can only imagine the power this will put out with an aggressive tune for 93-96octane and the bells and whistles turned on.....pay attention to the smoothness of the power curve. THAT is what determines driveability.

ok here is the final graph
 

Ok, this is after the road tune where where they tweaked a few parameters but still only on 87 octane....this is the graph with the previous stated numbers and the ultra smooth power curve. Enjoy.

Im interested too...but kinda turned off at having to change the exhaust cam gear...can you tell us the reason for this...i have a 2003 p5...thanks!

wow, thats a horrible reason to not want to correct the horrible factory ECU!!

The stock exhaust cam gear has 3 magentic pick-ups on it for data transmission to the ecu. The AEM will only see 1 pick-up. This is not a problem with the system, just the way it's designed. The cam gear is included in the price of the system and is very simple to replace. I plan on adding my cams at the same time of the ecu installation so it's no extra effort for me.

If you're hesitant because you've never replaced a gear before, don't worry. It's very straight forward and requires no special tools or a lot of mechanical knowledge....just simple nuts and bolts.

I promise you that the benefit of adding the AEM to your car will far out weigh the worry about replacing the cam gear!!

will it be an aem cam gear too? i tried looking for one at the aem site and they dont have one for a mazda...also, which ems are we looking at...again at the aem site there's only ems for miata's and rx7's...

You gotta read up on the entire thread!! This is a custom ecu built in house by Wagner Motorsports. The box is a generic AEM ecu controller tuned and tested by Wagner..

The cam gear is also a custom generated piece. It's not an adjustable cam gear. It's only used to replace the magnetic pickups of the stock gear.

AEM ecu
 

What a great "fix"! Any idea how it would look on a sniffer test?

Have they done a similar one for a late model Miata. A friend is an SCCA SSB competitior and we're trying to figure out what to do to deal with the Z-4 BMWs they just allowed into the class.

the ecu WILL pass a sniffer test, but not an OBD-II test. The AEM basicaly overrides the stock ecu parameters so when the tock ecu realizes it's lost ignition control, fuel control, etc....it will TRY to display a CEL. The AEM will keep the light from illuminating, but the code will still be "pull-able" by someone with a scan tool.


I will ask about adapting the AEM for the miata, but I'm almost positiv that it CAN work in them. Of course no official testing has been done yet, but the AEM is fully transferable to almos any other vehicle on the road. You will basically pay $100 for a new custom harness for the miata and you'll recieve unlimited free tuning for it as well.


*EDIT* Be sure to go back and read post #1....some new great info...namely...BUILT IN DYNO!!

hmmm....very interesting...

yeah...how do you like that?!?! I'm very interested now in seeing if I can get a molded dash monitor where my stereo goes have it linked to my laptop behind the dash and the AEM wired up to it to display values in real time....how awesome?!?!

so basically if i had a whole load of tuning skills i can just buy the aem ecu and tune it myself and get the same or even better results?

absolutly. The AEM is an amazing unit and controlls more functions than any other ecu I've ever seen.

You can do traction control with this thing!?!?! How crazy is that?? It's got a built-in Dyno?!?! I think it can run something like 24 injectors...you can run with or without your MAF....it can control boost (with an additonal solenoid).

The AEM is awesome...just ask the honda guys.

Would it be possible to firm up the shift points for us guys running automatics as well? That's the one thing that really bugs me about the Autostick, the shifts are soooooo slow!

This would be possible if the auto trans were an electronic transmission like some of the newer fords...I don't think it is though.

The best way to fimr up shift points in an auto is with a shift-improver-kits. I'm not very familiar with the mazda autos. I knew how much more sluggish they were than the manual trannys so I didn't invest any time learning about them.

I would try to look up the tranny code and then get on the internet and look up shift kits for your trans model number. That would be a big gain even on a stock car. Also, LEVEL 10 makes performance torque convertors that do wonders! My turbo-pinto has one and it dropped .3s off it's quartermile time with no other mods.

hmmm.... very interesting. I've been pondering getting into some engine management for awhile seems to make soomuch more sense than anything else. Just spendy, yes. I'm looking into the carputer option as well. Wouldn't that be sweet!!!

Any word on fuel economy gains? it's gotta help...

I can only speculate about mpg increase, but I'd assume this would be like any other mod....it will only help your mileage if you stay out of the gas pedal.

I do know that the car can be tuned for mileage though....they would just retard all of the timing and so forth.

So how much for the intake cam included with the AEM

you have really got to read the whole thread.....what intake cam??

yo, ECU 1.6L. What I got to do to get one? I got AWR racing header and intake injen. Was going to get a TB from Corksport, but useless without turbo. Let me know what's up?

is your car a third gen protege? then the AEM will work.