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mazdaspeed777 February-27th-2007 02:49 PM

WTB: 2001 MP3 Protege ECU
 
Like the title says I am looking for a working in good condition ECU from an MP3. It has to be from the manual transmission MP3 model Protege, they only made the MP3's in 2001 so if its not a 2001 its not an MP3. The numbers on the ECU should be one of these numbers:

FS9N-18-881
FS9N-18-881B
FS9N-18-881C

Let me know if you have one or could possibly get one(from junkyard, friend, parts store, etc.). I would also be willing to give you my ECU. Your help would be much appreciated. Thanks, Dan

Roddimus Prime February-28th-2007 09:51 AM

funny this thread pops up now..... I'm in the process of ordering an OE ecu re-flasher for mazda, honda, toyota/scion. It would allow me to take the stock maps from MP3/MSP ecu's and flash them onto other stock ecu's.

I was just debating myself to see if this was something that would make me money or cost me money.

How much is an MP3 ecu worth to you??

Da P-Funk! February-28th-2007 11:12 AM

Rod! Dude! Do this!

I would pay $100 shipped total. Assumes a no more than 1 week total turn-around time.

WooHoo!

OhboyOhboyOhboyOhboy!

mazdaspeed777 February-28th-2007 01:36 PM

So you could flash my 2003 Mazda Protege5 ECU to a 2001 Mazda MP3 Protege ECU??

If thats the case I would give $50-$100. Let me know if that sounds fair. I would really be interested in this. Let me know when you will be getting the OE ecu re-flasher.

Roddimus Prime February-28th-2007 06:01 PM

yeah, I was figuring $100 a pop would do it and I'd be able to do ANY OE flash no problems however I'm looking into the software to see if it has edit features as well. My underhood rep is supposed to be getting me detailed info on this as we speak.

It's a $1200+ investment for me so I'd need to line up a few more people upfront that want it done. If I got 10-12 people who would be willing to put a deposit down upfront I'd go ahead and buy the hardware and go grab the maps for the mp3/msp ecu's and have them on file.

This would allow someone with a standard protege (even mp3) to turbo their car with a STOCK msp tune which would mean NO issues with idling or driveability. No more buying junkyard ecu's or fmu's and voltage clamps. An FMU+VC costs $400+ for a quality unit and STILL has tuning issues and drivability concerns.

wait....lemme see what's involved first. I made need to have a 3rd gen protege on hand to do this....swap ecu's, then go through the OBDII port. Without the OBDII port I have no way of connecting to the ecu.

I'll have to look to see if I can find a local 3rd gen that will let me borrow their car randomly for re-flashing.

either way I think this will be a good idea. I'm going to source a tester car and both maps first before buying the hardware. I wish Phil had left his P5 with me when he shipped off so I could've just used it.

Da P-Funk! March-1st-2007 07:32 AM

Rod-
I am serious. Let me know if you need the $100 upfront.

pleaseOplease let there be a good buisness case here...

Come on peeps! $100 for a decent gain! "What's not to like?"

ShowThe Love.

mazdaspeed777 March-1st-2007 10:57 AM

Hey Roddimus Prime. Deffinately put me down for an MP3 re-flash. We would just have to send you are ECU's right, we wouldn't have to drive are car to AL would we? Also I would feal a little nervous about sending you a $100 deposite before you even have the equipement needed to do the re-flash. Could we do a half now, half later kind of thing? Also how long does it take to do the re-flash? Was wondering how long I would be out of a car. I could overnight the ECU to you, would you be able to overnight them back??

mazdaspeed777 March-1st-2007 11:04 AM

So I will start a list for the re-flash's Roddimus Prime for the 10-12 people you need up front:

So far it's:

1:mazdaspeed777
2:da p-funk!
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I will advertise this on www.mazdas247.com if you are really serious and know for sure you will do this Roddimus Prime? Let me know

Roddimus Prime March-1st-2007 02:00 PM

here's what I suggest:

We'll keep this as a Gauging Interest thread. When we get 10-12 SERIOUS buyers down I will purchase the hardware upfront and THEN ask for a $50 deposit to help recover the cost of the hardware.

I will pay for everything uip front out of my own pocket before taking any money from anyone but I won't buy it until there is SOLID committment that I wont be throwing away $1200+.

Shipping can be done however you guys would like...if you want it overnight I can do that. If you want it cheapest possible I can do that also.

I'm still waiting on more info from my factory rep but I know for a fact that I can put mp3 and msp stock maps on 3rd gen protege ECU's with this hardware, no problem.

mazdaspeed777 March-1st-2007 02:39 PM

That sounds good to me

Luzer March-1st-2007 02:49 PM

Don't get me wrong here, I thing this could be a great thing. I just want to make sure of what we are getting into here. Is this a direct plug-and-play? All we have to do is send you our ecu, you will reprogram it to be an mp3 ecu, and we just plug it back into our cars and go? Is there anything else we need to do to our engine to make them run properly? How much of a gain would I get if I did this on my mp5?

also, what the chances that I will get back a toasted ecu? I can't afford to buy a new one if something goes wrong.

Da P-Funk! March-2nd-2007 06:36 AM

1. I Trust Rod. He is one of maybe two poeple in the iUniverse that i trust. So sending full or partial is not an issue.

2. It is truly a PlugnPlay solution. I think the chance of a smoked ECU is nil. If it did happen- again, i would trust Rod to make it right. All you need to do is start using higher octane fuel. Just like an MP3.

3. Gain? I would expect 10-ish hp. Combined with my other mods - it should be quite noticable. The best $/hp gain for us.

Roddimus Prime March-2nd-2007 06:52 AM

the chance of a toasted ecu is 0%. When I worked for mitsubishi I was the only tech who could actually use their MUT tool to re-flash ecu's. there is honestly nothing involved with swapping maps. It just takes about 10 minutes.

Everything is simple swap. Just unplug the ecu, plug it back in. Nothing else to do.

A p5 with an mp3 ecu will probably see about 5whp or so but will also need to run 89-91 octane for this gain. The difference is the advanced timing. With a header, intake and cams you would see very decent gains. Remeber, air in, air burnt, air out is what makes power...intake and cams =air in, ecu=air burnt and header and exhaust = air out. They compliment each other. The gain of the ecu alone won't be as much as if you already have the other mods done and THEN put the ecu on.

yes, I will handle any ecu problems that come up...i dont see how this will ever be an issue though.

spotthedogg March-2nd-2007 08:34 AM

I am definitely in if the turn around time is acceptable to Canada.

mickeyreategui March-2nd-2007 09:03 AM

im interested as well. another question, say the battery goes dead will it flash back to the normal settings or will stay with the mp3 ecu map???

dave45090 March-2nd-2007 09:48 AM

I'm definately in!

Originally Posted by mazdaspeed777
So I will start a list for the re-flash's Roddimus Prime for the 10-12 people you need up front:

So far it's:

1:mazdaspeed777
2:da p-funk!
3:dave45090
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I will advertise this on www.mazdas247.com if you are really serious and know for sure you will do this Roddimus Prime? Let me know


Luzer March-2nd-2007 10:18 AM

I'm convinced. Count me in!


Originally Posted by mazdaspeed777
So I will start a list for the re-flash's Roddimus Prime for the 10-12 people you need up front:

So far it's:

1:mazdaspeed777
2:da p-funk!
3:dave45090
4:Luzer
5:
6:
7:
8:
9:
10:
11:
12:

I will advertise this on www.mazdas247.com if you are really serious and know for sure you will do this Roddimus Prime? Let me know


lowandslow March-2nd-2007 12:12 PM

I'm in as well

Originally Posted by mazdaspeed777
So I will start a list for the re-flash's Roddimus Prime for the 10-12 people you need up front:

So far it's:

1:mazdaspeed777
2:da p-funk!
3:dave45090
4:Luzer
5:lowandslow
6:
7:
8:
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10:
11:
12:

mazdaspeed777 March-2nd-2007 12:56 PM

mickeyreategui

[quote] im interested as well. another question, say the battery goes dead will it flash back to the normal settings or will stay with the mp3 ecu map??? [quote]


No, this is a permanent re-flash. The only way to change it is to get it reflashed again.

Roddimus Prime March-2nd-2007 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by spotthedogg
I am definitely in if the turn around time is acceptable to Canada.


shipping will be dictated by what you are willing to pay for. I don't ever jack up shipping or anything. Most times I ship stuff out at my expense and then just tell you what it cost me.

Roddimus Prime March-2nd-2007 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by mickeyreategui
im interested as well. another question, say the battery goes dead will it flash back to the normal settings or will stay with the mp3 ecu map???

I'm 99% sure it will retain the newest map selected after a power loss. If for whatever reason the map reverts back I will re-flash it for free+shipping.

Also, some new info I got today at my sales meeting is that the reflasher2 will allow me to print a map file log to include with every job. It will show the code BEFORE the flash and the CODE after the flash. This way there will be no question as to people feeling ripped off.

lowandslow March-2nd-2007 04:41 PM

hey Roddimus,

that little piece of information makes me feel alot more comfortable with the process. Keep us up to date, i'm trying to rally the troops.

Matt

Roddimus Prime March-2nd-2007 06:37 PM

sounds good. Also, a little info I found out is that I have to purchase all of the software for each manufacturer...I'll get all the cables and hardware for GM, ford, chrysler, honda/acura, toyota/lexus/scion, mazda.....but I have to buy the software for each import seperatly. Only the domestic maps come with the tuner..

I can purchase OE maps for a few hundred each direct from the manufacturer.

lowandslow March-2nd-2007 09:33 PM

hey,

can't you just borrow an MP3 and get it for free?

Matt

Roddimus Prime March-3rd-2007 06:22 AM

the maps yes...the software, no. Basically the program to install to the new map is a few hundred.

I'm going to buy the mazda program first and when funds become available I'll buy the others.

FocusMSP March-3rd-2007 06:27 AM

I may be able to help you with maps. I have just invested in a method to read the stock ECU's through the J3 port on the back. I have also asked if the files can be modified, I have to send a copy of the .bin to a programmer, and if it's anything like the Fords, we may be able to actually tune the stock ECU !!!

Roddimus Prime March-3rd-2007 11:32 AM

i can tell you right off the bat they are totally different types of maps. The only thing in common between the ford/azda ecu's is the case.

I wish you the best of luck...i really do. Let me know what you come up with. I'd rather invest in that that paying over $1500 for something to give us stock maps.

whitemp5seattle March-3rd-2007 01:11 PM

I got linked to this thread from mazdas247.com and I decided to create a profile on here so I could post that I'm interested too...

little did I know that I actually already have a profile on here...I just never used it I guess!

Anyway, I'm interested in this...

1:mazdaspeed777
2:da p-funk!
3:dave45090
4:Luzer
5:lowandslow
6:whitemp5seattle
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one question I have is that on the other forum there was talk about getting a new intake manifold gasket as this mod can cause it to heat up a lot. The OEM one is made of a material that tends to dry up and crack when it gets too hot I guess? http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123662420

lowandslow March-3rd-2007 02:01 PM

the only mention of the gasket is to replace them when you are doing the VTCS removal as they disintigrate when you take the manifolds off. If you are just doing the reflash you don't have to do anything.

It did read a little funny in the other forum

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO WITH THE FLASH IS PLUG IT IN AND ENJOY!!!

nothing funny

Matt

whitemp5seattle March-3rd-2007 02:25 PM

ah ok...thanks for the clarification :)

Roddimus Prime March-3rd-2007 04:25 PM

welcome back to the forum.

Yeah, this will be a ecu swap only mod.If custom tuned maps become available in the future I will be VERY active in getting those so we can flash them onto stock ecu's instead.

I drove my modified p5 with an MP3 map for a while and really enjoyed it. I'm sure this will make a lot of people pretty happy.

Luzer March-4th-2007 02:32 AM

Damn, now I gettin' all excited for this to happen! Maybe this should be a genuine group buy thread? It isn't obvious from the title that that's what this is.

lowandslow March-4th-2007 02:54 AM

that would be a good idea too me, something a little more official with no other BS in the thread. Just a list of people who want to do it.

Matt

Roddimus Prime March-4th-2007 07:09 AM

set it up and I'll back it.

mickeyreategui March-5th-2007 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
I'm 99% sure it will retain the newest map selected after a power loss. If for whatever reason the map reverts back I will re-flash it for free+shipping.

Also, some new info I got today at my sales meeting is that the reflasher2 will allow me to print a map file log to include with every job. It will show the code BEFORE the flash and the CODE after the flash. This way there will be no question as to people feeling ripped off.

in that case, sign me up!!!!!

spotthedogg March-6th-2007 11:33 AM

I will most def do it, I need to know if it's for sure.

lowandslow March-6th-2007 06:06 PM

moved to Protege 5 section

https://www.mazda3club.com/showthrea...933#post375933

mazdaspeed777 March-9th-2007 11:33 AM

Has anyone got there stock ECU reflashed to a different model before at a Mazda dealership?? All dealerships have access to all mazda model maps so I called my mazda dealership to see if he would reflash my P5 ECU to the MP3 Protege map and he was all sketchy about it and seemed to not beleave it was possible. So if anyone has done this with any model let me know??

lowandslow March-9th-2007 03:48 PM

the dealers don't have access to all maps. Only to cars that they service. No dealer I talked to had a map for the MP3 in their "Stock"

Matt

Roddimus Prime March-9th-2007 07:38 PM

worst case scenario I just have to borrow an MP3 ecu and pull the map off it and save the file for use later. same with the MSP maps.

I believe that purchasing the software gives me access to mazda OEM software maps. Other wise what good would this unit be?


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