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March-17th-2003, 11:52 AM
#2
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Location: Regina, Canada
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Be careful of those thermogenics. Ephedra is beginning to get a lot of attention with it's harmful side effects. You don't want to get a heart attack or anything, and trust me, it is possible.
Also, if you take a thermogenic supplement, there is a very good chance you will loose some weight. However, unless you make lifestyle changes in the process(improved diet, regular exercise), you WILL gain the weight back as soon as you stop using the pills. I have read that flucuating your weight is very hard on your body. These pills are expensive and most people can't afford to keep taking them forever, in addition, they are not good for your body in the long run.
If you want my advice, stay away from the thermogenics. Instead, improve your diet, do not eat any fast food, never drink soda pop, snack less often and eat smaller portions at your meals. In addition, exercise at least 30 minutes 3 times per week. Even a brisk walk will make a big difference. Walk or ride your bike as often as possible, and always take the stairs instead of the elevator. Keep hydrated b/c your body will slow it's metabolism if you are dehydrated.
If you want to take some sort of supplemenbt pills. I would get EFA(Essential Fatty Acids). Most people get too many Omega 6 fats but not enough Omega 3 and 9 fats. You need fats to produce hormones so it's a good idea to take these. Another few interesting supplements are Tribulus, Chromium and Selenium.
Tribulus helps your body to creat more leutinizing hormone(LH). When your body creates more LH, it also creates testosterone with it. Increasing your testosterone can help to loose weight and increase muscle density. In addition, tribulus is known to increase sex drive.
Chromium effects your insulin levels. If I remember correctly, it decreases your insulin levels so you store less energy as fat and helps the glucagon to use your fat stores and convert them into energy. I'm not certtain that this is exactly how it works but it's something like that. You can always look up Chromium with google.
Selenium is not for fat loss but if there is any supplement that people should take, it's selenium. This mineral assists your body's use of antioxidants. THis is incrediblly important for ridding yourself of free radicals and preventing cancer and other bad things. Since most north americans don't eat enough fruits and vegetables, they need all the antioxidants they can get, so selenium is a good idea.
Well...that's enough from me. I'd better stop before I loose myself into the topic.
Also, if you take a thermogenic supplement, there is a very good chance you will loose some weight. However, unless you make lifestyle changes in the process(improved diet, regular exercise), you WILL gain the weight back as soon as you stop using the pills. I have read that flucuating your weight is very hard on your body. These pills are expensive and most people can't afford to keep taking them forever, in addition, they are not good for your body in the long run.
If you want my advice, stay away from the thermogenics. Instead, improve your diet, do not eat any fast food, never drink soda pop, snack less often and eat smaller portions at your meals. In addition, exercise at least 30 minutes 3 times per week. Even a brisk walk will make a big difference. Walk or ride your bike as often as possible, and always take the stairs instead of the elevator. Keep hydrated b/c your body will slow it's metabolism if you are dehydrated.
If you want to take some sort of supplemenbt pills. I would get EFA(Essential Fatty Acids). Most people get too many Omega 6 fats but not enough Omega 3 and 9 fats. You need fats to produce hormones so it's a good idea to take these. Another few interesting supplements are Tribulus, Chromium and Selenium.
Tribulus helps your body to creat more leutinizing hormone(LH). When your body creates more LH, it also creates testosterone with it. Increasing your testosterone can help to loose weight and increase muscle density. In addition, tribulus is known to increase sex drive.
Chromium effects your insulin levels. If I remember correctly, it decreases your insulin levels so you store less energy as fat and helps the glucagon to use your fat stores and convert them into energy. I'm not certtain that this is exactly how it works but it's something like that. You can always look up Chromium with google.
Selenium is not for fat loss but if there is any supplement that people should take, it's selenium. This mineral assists your body's use of antioxidants. THis is incrediblly important for ridding yourself of free radicals and preventing cancer and other bad things. Since most north americans don't eat enough fruits and vegetables, they need all the antioxidants they can get, so selenium is a good idea.
Well...that's enough from me. I'd better stop before I loose myself into the topic.
March-17th-2003, 12:36 PM
#3
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: California
Posts: 53
do not decrease or block your insulin! insulin is what allows the glucose into your cells. glucose piggybacks on insulin and it gets in that way. if you delete or block it you will not use the glucose in your body and it will just turn to fat or make you diabetic. insulin is your friend. you do not want to put yourself into an insulin coma and die! 
i'm not a doctor i just play one on TV.
i'm not a doctor i just play one on TV.
March-17th-2003, 03:28 PM
#4
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Regina, Canada
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Because I wasn't very clear on Chromium before. Here is a clipping from a website I found.
Claims, Benefits: Builds muscle, prevents and treats diabetes, promotes weight loss.
Bottom Line: Chromium is an essential mineral, but deficiency is rare in the U.S. There's no evidence that chromium picolinate supplements perform as claimed, promote weight loss, or benefit healthy people. There is some evidence that they may harm cells. Diabetics should take only on medical advice.
Full article, Wellness Letter, June 1999:
New study tarnishes chromium
We've always had doubts about the benefits—and more importantly, the safety—of chromium supplements. Millions currently take chromium picolinate in the hope of preventing or reversing diabetes, reducing blood cholesterol, and building muscle. Weight loss is even touted as one of its benefits. But the evidence is mounting that these supplements can do more harm than good.
Chromium is an essential trace mineral found in a wide variety of foods. It is important in the burning of carbohydrates and fats in the body, and helps insulin do its work of making blood sugar (glucose, our basic fuel) available to cells. Nobody is sure how much chromium we need to stay healthy, but some experts worry that we don't get enough. Chromium in food is not easily absorbed by the body. Chromium picolinate—the form of the mineral commonly sold as a supplement—is more easily absorbed.
Three years ago a laboratory study from Dartmouth College showed that chromium picolinate could damage the genetic material of hamster cells. This raised the question of whether it might cause cancer in humans. The response from the supplements industry was indignant: "bad science," they cried. It's true that it was only a lab study, and that what happens to hamster cells in a test tube might not happen to human cells in the body. But then again, this kind of genetic damage can be a warning signal.
Now a new study conducted by Dr. John Vincent at the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa shows that chromium picolinate enters the cells directly and stays there—where it can cause problems. In fact, the chromium picolinate reacts with vitamin C and other antioxidants in the cells to produce a "reduced" form of chromium capable of causing mutations in DNA, the genetic material. It's the combination of chromium and picolinate (particularly the reduced form) that can produce dangerous compounds—not the chromium alone. Moreover, the picolinate eventually breaks off and itself has adverse effects.
Words to the wise: There's little evidence that chromium deficiency is widespread. Some very preliminary research suggests that chromium picolinate can reduce blood sugar in people with Type 2 diabetes, the most common form of the disease. But that's a far cry from a reliable treatment for diabetes, which is not a chromium-deficiency disease. There is no good evidence backing chromium picolinate as a weight-loss aid, a muscle-builder, or a way to reduce blood cholesterol levels. This new evidence does suggest that it may have serious side effects. Nobody should take chromium picolinate, especially not young people.
UC Berkeley Wellness Letter, June 1999
This is definately an article against Chromium. It may be right however. So, don't take my work for it, do some research yourself if you are serious about loosing weight.
Claims, Benefits: Builds muscle, prevents and treats diabetes, promotes weight loss.
Bottom Line: Chromium is an essential mineral, but deficiency is rare in the U.S. There's no evidence that chromium picolinate supplements perform as claimed, promote weight loss, or benefit healthy people. There is some evidence that they may harm cells. Diabetics should take only on medical advice.
Full article, Wellness Letter, June 1999:
New study tarnishes chromium
We've always had doubts about the benefits—and more importantly, the safety—of chromium supplements. Millions currently take chromium picolinate in the hope of preventing or reversing diabetes, reducing blood cholesterol, and building muscle. Weight loss is even touted as one of its benefits. But the evidence is mounting that these supplements can do more harm than good.
Chromium is an essential trace mineral found in a wide variety of foods. It is important in the burning of carbohydrates and fats in the body, and helps insulin do its work of making blood sugar (glucose, our basic fuel) available to cells. Nobody is sure how much chromium we need to stay healthy, but some experts worry that we don't get enough. Chromium in food is not easily absorbed by the body. Chromium picolinate—the form of the mineral commonly sold as a supplement—is more easily absorbed.
Three years ago a laboratory study from Dartmouth College showed that chromium picolinate could damage the genetic material of hamster cells. This raised the question of whether it might cause cancer in humans. The response from the supplements industry was indignant: "bad science," they cried. It's true that it was only a lab study, and that what happens to hamster cells in a test tube might not happen to human cells in the body. But then again, this kind of genetic damage can be a warning signal.
Now a new study conducted by Dr. John Vincent at the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa shows that chromium picolinate enters the cells directly and stays there—where it can cause problems. In fact, the chromium picolinate reacts with vitamin C and other antioxidants in the cells to produce a "reduced" form of chromium capable of causing mutations in DNA, the genetic material. It's the combination of chromium and picolinate (particularly the reduced form) that can produce dangerous compounds—not the chromium alone. Moreover, the picolinate eventually breaks off and itself has adverse effects.
Words to the wise: There's little evidence that chromium deficiency is widespread. Some very preliminary research suggests that chromium picolinate can reduce blood sugar in people with Type 2 diabetes, the most common form of the disease. But that's a far cry from a reliable treatment for diabetes, which is not a chromium-deficiency disease. There is no good evidence backing chromium picolinate as a weight-loss aid, a muscle-builder, or a way to reduce blood cholesterol levels. This new evidence does suggest that it may have serious side effects. Nobody should take chromium picolinate, especially not young people.
UC Berkeley Wellness Letter, June 1999
This is definately an article against Chromium. It may be right however. So, don't take my work for it, do some research yourself if you are serious about loosing weight.
March-17th-2003, 05:36 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2001
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Well to make it simple, you wanna burn fat....
To burn fat, you need muscle...
Hence, work on getting stronger
Do some cardio along the way....
My friend could make a BIG 'title-belt' with his stomach back in high school. Now you can't really call him anything beyond stocky. He's lost something like 25 pounds in a year and you can right away tell the difference.....
So my advice, join the gym, start working on your strength, and do alot of cardio.
For your diet, stop drinking pop, and stop eating after 10pm....
If you work-out three times a week and do cardio twice a week (alternating), you will notice an improvement within a month, guar-damn-teed. For cardio, running and swimming are all you need
Get on the treadmill and in the pool.
To burn fat, you need muscle...
Hence, work on getting stronger
Do some cardio along the way....
My friend could make a BIG 'title-belt' with his stomach back in high school. Now you can't really call him anything beyond stocky. He's lost something like 25 pounds in a year and you can right away tell the difference.....
So my advice, join the gym, start working on your strength, and do alot of cardio.
For your diet, stop drinking pop, and stop eating after 10pm....
If you work-out three times a week and do cardio twice a week (alternating), you will notice an improvement within a month, guar-damn-teed. For cardio, running and swimming are all you need
Get on the treadmill and in the pool.
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