JFC! Ultra religous conservatives censoring posts!
May-2nd-2003, 06:00 PM
#46
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these are the angriest, most mean spirited f*cking cats i've ever seen, and even they had enuff respect not to say JFC:
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May-2nd-2003, 06:30 PM
#47
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Ok. Soapbox time. Sorry, but it has to be done.
Imagine you belong to a religion that considers Mick Jagger to be a deity. You say your prayers to Almighty Mick on, let's say, Tuesday. Also, every Tuesday afternoon, you play "Jumpin' Jack Flash" exactly twenty-seven times while sticking out your tongue.
Now, suppose you see some guy in a record store. He's complaining about the latest Stones "comeback" album. He tells you that Mick Jagger is a washed-up has-been who really has no business making records anymore. Worse, he tells you this on a Tuesday.
Do you have the right to be offended? Of course. BUT... Do you have the right to say that he can't say those things? No, you do not. Because, during the course of your conversation with him, you might have unwittingly offended his religion. But how are you supposed to know? And how was he supposed to know you worshipped Mick Jagger?
Now, over the course of the last few weeks, I have seen any number of terms posted here that could have offended me personally. I never once mentioned any of these things, because IT DOESN'T MATTER. I'm here to talk cars. I'm a car guy. I'm also smart enough to realize that words, in and of themselves, are harmless. Who cares? They're just words.
That said, there is another side to all of this. The only face that any of us have to present, in this medium, is our language. If you want to be taken seriously, temper your use of terms that someone else might consider "offensive." It's not out of "respect," or because a word is "wrong"; it's because the words used to make up the message are so often confused with the message itself. Make yourself clear, and do it without resorting to the lowest common denominator of the language.
That way, no one has a reason to censor you.
Imagine you belong to a religion that considers Mick Jagger to be a deity. You say your prayers to Almighty Mick on, let's say, Tuesday. Also, every Tuesday afternoon, you play "Jumpin' Jack Flash" exactly twenty-seven times while sticking out your tongue.
Now, suppose you see some guy in a record store. He's complaining about the latest Stones "comeback" album. He tells you that Mick Jagger is a washed-up has-been who really has no business making records anymore. Worse, he tells you this on a Tuesday.
Do you have the right to be offended? Of course. BUT... Do you have the right to say that he can't say those things? No, you do not. Because, during the course of your conversation with him, you might have unwittingly offended his religion. But how are you supposed to know? And how was he supposed to know you worshipped Mick Jagger?
Now, over the course of the last few weeks, I have seen any number of terms posted here that could have offended me personally. I never once mentioned any of these things, because IT DOESN'T MATTER. I'm here to talk cars. I'm a car guy. I'm also smart enough to realize that words, in and of themselves, are harmless. Who cares? They're just words.
That said, there is another side to all of this. The only face that any of us have to present, in this medium, is our language. If you want to be taken seriously, temper your use of terms that someone else might consider "offensive." It's not out of "respect," or because a word is "wrong"; it's because the words used to make up the message are so often confused with the message itself. Make yourself clear, and do it without resorting to the lowest common denominator of the language.
That way, no one has a reason to censor you.
May-3rd-2003, 11:23 AM
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So...Lemme get this straight.
If someone comes in your house and you don't agree with thier religion, rather than listen & learn about their different beliefs, you tell them to shut up. Mkay.
I remember making the mistake of admitting to you guys that I go to church on Sunday...
If someone comes in your house and you don't agree with thier religion, rather than listen & learn about their different beliefs, you tell them to shut up. Mkay.
I remember making the mistake of admitting to you guys that I go to church on Sunday...
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May-3rd-2003, 11:44 AM
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Here's another example:
You stray away from cursing, but someone comes into your house and they LOVE using profanity.(GD, F@#$K, J..C, etc)
Are you going to let him curse all around your house all day? It's your house and your rules, isn't it?
And what if you have kids or other guest over? Will you still let him?
You stray away from cursing, but someone comes into your house and they LOVE using profanity.(GD, F@#$K, J..C, etc)
Are you going to let him curse all around your house all day? It's your house and your rules, isn't it?
And what if you have kids or other guest over? Will you still let him?
May-3rd-2003, 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
However, if random stranger guy does that in your house, and you tell him about your religion, and he continues, then do you have a right to say something?
That's the point...because this is a privately owned forum. For lack of a better analogy, you're in our house.
However, if random stranger guy does that in your house, and you tell him about your religion, and he continues, then do you have a right to say something?
That's the point...because this is a privately owned forum. For lack of a better analogy, you're in our house.
Everything on the Internet is a matter of public record, and freely accessible. A better analogy would be to say that we're at a gathering, a party, let's say, held outdoors and in public, sponsored by you guys. You can throw people out of your party, but you really can't choose who comes in. Very different from your living room.
Which is all beside the point I was trying to make anyway. My point is that if you use that sort of language, even though I personally couldn't care less, people are less likely to take you seriously. I was trying to steer people away from the religious side of the debate, and away from the 1st Amendment, towards a more practical approach. That's all.
May-5th-2003, 02:15 AM
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Some one said that people just need to get a since of humer? So, lets say that tie up your mother and grudge hump her......Dont get mad........Just laugh like crazy! I just dont see why youd want to stir people up? JFC is not that cool of a word to use, even if you dont know many others. If I went around saying the ****** or Honkey or ***** or spic word....Some ones gonna get pissed wheather im in their house or not. And hopefully id get my *** kicked! You do have the right to say anything you want. You also have the right to indulge in any Natural consequences that may occur. With my .02 being spoke.........%^$# OFF!
May-7th-2003, 05:09 PM
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F word
The "F" Word
There are only eleven times in history where the "F" word has been considered acceptable for use . They are as follows:
11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?" -- Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
10. "What the @#$% was that?" - Mayor Of Hiroshima, 1945
9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?" - Custer, 1877
8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that." - Einstein, 1938
7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!" - Picasso, 1926
6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?" - Pythagoras, 126BC
5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?" - Michelangelo, 1566
4. "Where the @#$% are we?" - Amelia Earhart, 1937
3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers....My ***!" - Noah, 4314 BC
2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?" -Bill Clinton,
1999
and drum roll please...........................
1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @%#*^ing mad." Saddam
Hussein, 2003.
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There are only eleven times in history where the "F" word has been considered acceptable for use . They are as follows:
11. "What the @#$% do you mean we are sinking?" -- Capt. E.J. Smith of RMS Titanic, 1912
10. "What the @#$% was that?" - Mayor Of Hiroshima, 1945
9. "Where did all those @#$%ing Indians come from?" - Custer, 1877
8. "Any @#$%ing idiot could understand that." - Einstein, 1938
7. "It does so @#$%ing look like her!" - Picasso, 1926
6. "How the @#$% did you work that out?" - Pythagoras, 126BC
5. "You want WHAT on the @#$%ing ceiling?" - Michelangelo, 1566
4. "Where the @#$% are we?" - Amelia Earhart, 1937
3. "Scattered @#$%ing showers....My ***!" - Noah, 4314 BC
2. "Aw c'mon. Who the @#$% is going to find out?" -Bill Clinton,
1999
and drum roll please...........................
1. "Geez, I didn't think they'd get this @%#*^ing mad." Saddam
Hussein, 2003.
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