TitaniumMSP

lets be honest here if we as a society/government started to step in and say what is and is not proper actions we would no longer be the free country that we are(control on this level will never fly). We have the right to choose when we have sex, who, how many ppl, but they should investigate a little more thorough on cases that the woman may have 4 kids from 4 diffrent guys etc, but really how can they that takes man power, money, time etc and you know that will never come to pass......all these problems are a fact of life and will probaly never change like it or not. I do believe a lot does have to do with the up bringing and the positive role you are for your children......

chiefmg

I think society is blamed too much. What happened to taking responsibility for our own actions? This was drilled into me by my father long ago, and I am trying to pass it along to my own kids. I can only hope it will sink in, and they will consider the results of what they decide to do beforehand.

My ex's sister is one of those we are talking about. She did wait until she was out of HS, but she has three kids with three different men, none of whom is in the kids' lives. Now the oldest (a girl) is right out of school and pregnant. Unmarried. The whole cycle begins anew. Not sure what the answer is, but I agree if we as a nation didn't regard this behavior as acceptable, or normal, it might make a difference.

JDM-P5

I really dislike that song....

P-rotege

People taking responsibilty for their own actions needs to become part of our society in every aspect not just this as an example. Children are taught in school that if things become too difficult, then someone else will always be there to help, (if life were so easy...)

It's a nice concept but people need to learn to rely on themselves, not others. If you screw up, you pay the consequences. You choose to indulge in sex at a young age you take the chance that you can become, or get someone else pregnant. Mommy and daddy, and big brother (gov't) should not take care of you.

This covers many aspects of society, not just teen pregnancy. People are pretty out-of-touch with reality these days. Everything is a game, until someone gets hurt, which these days seems to be the tax-payiong citizens.

Phantom Cruiser

Where are we going? And what's with this handbasket???

THAPRO1

I agree with this statement and also the others about upbringing, i'm 19 almost 20 years old and i can tell you first hand its all about upbringing and teaching your kids to accept responsibility, which is exactly why i don't have a kid at this point because my parents drilled that concept into me and its saved me in alot of ways.
one of my friends that i've known since i was about five is in this exact situtation he got involved with a girl and now she's pregnant,
the thing is when me and my other friend talked to him about it he said he has no intention of marrying her but he wants to support the baby....thing is he works pt at jewel and makes $7 an hour.
this is the entire problem with society these days people never think things through before they do them IMO people with the exception of those who are in this circumstance because of death or something else like that shouldn't be helped out so easily like they are they should be made to see what the consequenses for their actions are however that wouldn't be good either because then where would the children who had no control over the situation be?
peace
dante

mthegodfather

I agree 110% our society is getting way out of hand.

Anarchistchiken

Wow, if this were on msprotege.com it would have been locked or deleted and Matty would have been banned again.

This isn't the only thing that bothers me about black "culture". The fact that they can basically do whatever they want as far as pop culture is concerned pisses me off so bad. For example, in the 1930's Mexican immigrants wore Zoot suits. It was practically a uniform for their culture. These were big, baggy, gawdy, ridiculous looking, brightly colored, pin-striped suits. But white people shut them down! They discriminated against anyone wearing them and eventually forced the trend out of existince.

The same thing is happening nowadays with black people and stupid oversized jerseys, t-shirts, pants, hat's just barely resting on the top of their heads sideways, "bling" etc. But today, no one will do **** about it, cause if someone does say something about how ridiculous it looks, they're immediatly labeled as a racist! And if a white person tries to pull off the same look, they're a "wigger" or just a plain idiot.

Another axample is BET. Black Entertainment Television. Could you even IMAGINE the ****-storm that would be caused if someone tried to start a network called White Entertainment Television? There would be rioting, people would literally be killed.


This country has gone to straight to hell in the last 10 years. I honestly can't see it pulling itself out, and for all the beautiful and great things that there still are here, I just don't know if I'll be able to live here if it keeps getting worse. But shipping to Canada is too damn expensive...

P-rotege

I'm 23. I was born when my father was 25. I think that is a good age, too old and your kids won't have a very active father during their teen years. My parents were financially secure, owned a home and were ready for me. Which IMO is what people should aspire to do...

I wonder if people ever ask themselves. "Do I really want to have a kid when I'm 18?" I have never even fathomed the idea, it would financially ruin me.

IMO nothing good comes from this fast-spreading epidemic...

Anarchistchiken

Although another type of fast spreading epidemic (flu, ebola maybe (God forbid)) might slow things down a bit.

hughes412

That’s why I was very excited to hear that the state of TX passed that law about the high school cheerleaders not being able to dance dirty. No I don’t want the government to run our lives but at what point do you step in and say enough? The problems come form our parents. Ours meaning our generations. We live in a society that says spanking is bad, yelling is bad, any disaplin that makes a child cry is bad. Well then I ask what can a parent do that will make a child do the right thing.
I am a single dad and have been for 3 going on 4 yrs, I’m 34 and I don’t want to be praised. Is it hard hell yes, but it was even harder when I was married to he mom.

chiefmg

When I was in college taking a mandatory leadership course, we watched a movie called "What you are is what you were when." Professor at a school in Texas made it, his main point was that each generation is affected by how their parents were raised and how they assimilated that. Kind of mind-boggling when you think of all the ramifications involved. Doesn't offer any resolution to what we are talking about, unless people get their heads out and start to correct things. This "takes a village" crap won't cut it. I say it takes some good old discipline and intestinal fortitude on the part of parents. There are many ways to discipline kids, restrict things, take stuff away etc. But it has to be done.

P-rotege

[QUOTE=. There are many ways to discipline kids, restrict things, take stuff away etc. But it has to be done.[/QUOTE]


Yep. I used to have to "pick my switch." That's what my dad called the branches from a willow tree. I had to pick my own branch for punishment. The thick branches hurt, the thin ones stung for a long time (I only picked the thin one once). That definately taught me that actions have consequences, especially the poorly thought out actions.

TitaniumMSP

I remember back in the day my *** was tore up if i stepped to far out of line (helps build the line of right and wrong). Nowadays you spank you kid and it is considered child abuse WTF my parents love me more than anything and always have been there for me. I have to say I will more than likely practice the same disipline acts as my parents did. Cause all and all i thank them for raising me the way they did.
I use to work at a daycare (yeah yeah laugh it up) and to use the time out or taking away things only last for so long. I do agree with the grounding aspect but if you ground you child to a room with a phone, TV, videogames then how is that punishment and if it is please punish me....people/parents have got weak in the dept. of discpline. The one thing I love about the south is really ppl are soooo nice here (go up north if you do not believe me).
I realize the decision your children make are their own, but you can instill the basic foundation for them to make a wise decision (but still no one is perfect)

Rogue Pro5

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105747

there ya go