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Getting a second Mazda, and this one is fast!
picking it up today...1988 Mazda MX-6 GT...This car dyno's stock at 148hp and 198lb-ft of torque at the wheels!!!...mmm turbo :yumyum:
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You lucky bastard. Post some pics when you get it.
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congrats
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Ha, I'm already registered at MX6.com ,thanks though
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hows that old beast running ?
what's your name ar mx6.com I use iggypop overthere too...:) |
same name over there too....I drove her to work today...already had an issue with the TB boot...got a temp fix on there working good though...I will def buy the one from Ford it's cheaper than the Mazda one. Got Cone filter on her, other than that bone stock. Still, I already have a decent kill list. Mustang GT, Monte Carlo, Dodge Ram 1500, Civic(couldn't help it,damn ricer). She needs some work though. NY car so she has some underbody rust, needs a new exhaust. I plan on getting a MBC,Zombie chip, and a new clutch. That should keep me happy for quite a while.
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I thought my Trans Am was fairly quick and it had double the HP at the wheels. Hmmmmm
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hmm....strange. Someones banning application must've gotten lost in the shuffle. Oh well, I'll see what we can do about that.
Congrats on the new ride. Enjoy your new found torque and kiss your tires goodbye! I used to have a hard time with a few MX-6's in my SHO prior to exhaust and N20! |
Oh, boy might as well call himself Mr GM...Thats ok though, My MX-6 is no lead sled. Crank up the boost and I can hang with TA's in the straights and KILL them in the twisties and my total investment will be a fraction of what they cost. Lets see MX-6 $600, TA $30,000..Which one sounds better to you. Besides if i can put down close to 250 hp, this engine is so torquey it will be putting down like 350+ lb-ft of torque, and torque is what wins races.
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Torque is what will get you going but horsepower is what keeps you going!
I wish I could luck up on a GT like that...especially for $600. I seem to get all the bum offers, but I did get a 1988 T-bird Turbo coupe with forged internals and a built tranny for $300! I guess you win some you lose some! |
Originally posted by macdaddyslomo Oh, boy might as well call himself Mr GM...Thats ok though, My MX-6 is no lead sled. Crank up the boost and I can hang with TA's in the straights and KILL them in the twisties and my total investment will be a fraction of what they cost. Lets see MX-6 $600, TA $30,000..Which one sounds better to you. Besides if i can put down close to 250 hp, this engine is so torquey it will be putting down like 350+ lb-ft of torque, and torque is what wins races. 13 flat? You think you will run 13 flat? And FYI, they don't make 30K TA's anymore, but you can still get one that will run 13.3's all day long for $10K Post the timeslips when you do ok? |
198lb-ft of torque is fast?
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compared to a protege it's almost twice as powerful....yeah, I'd call that fast....also it's 198lb/ft for $600.
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Originally posted by Roddimus Prime Torque is what will get you going but horsepower is what keeps you going! I wish I could luck up on a GT like that...especially for $600. I seem to get all the bum offers, but I did get a 1988 T-bird Turbo coupe with forged internals and a built tranny for $300! I guess you win some you lose some! here's check it out...http://home.comcast.net/~palija/MX6/turbo.html macdaddyslomo , it looks like that gu yat MX6.com SixSick6 is giving you a hard time over the TB Boot ... man don't let thim get to you . He's really cool guy . His been on the forums for ever. |
I dont think low 15's stock is bad at all...198Lb-ft to the wheels too,not the crank...more like 240 to the crank...and for another $800 or so I can run 13's...zombie chip,3" exhaust,MBC,and stage 1 clutch will get me there...dare to compare the same year TA??...oh wait they run 16's...so an 88 Mx-6 vs an 88 TA, looks like the MX-6 wins...btw not much selection for a TA that runs 13's for $10K..1998 only...99 bumps to like $15K and 1997 runs 14's...and they all weigh in around 3500+ lbs...at 2700 lbs i dont even need to make as much power...a 1998 TA which costs(if you are really lucky) $9400 more than my Mx-6 has a 100lb-ft advantage stock....so if i put down about 260-270 lb-ft, I'll pull on them too....
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Originally posted by macdaddyslomo Still, I already have a decent kill list. Mustang GT, Monte Carlo, Dodge Ram 1500, Civic(couldn't help it,damn ricer). She needs some work though. NY car so she has some underbody rust, needs a new exhaust. I plan on getting a MBC,Zombie chip, and a new clutch. That should keep me happy for quite a while. What kills me is that , you are gona upboost on those 15 yrs old internals... man , you need to rebuild it from top to bottom for what you are after. Its funny you are talking about chip to eliminate boost cut and MBC and my friend's Probe has turned all way up to 20 psi without a chip. I did not see anywhere what you are doing about fuel management.Start with crappy 15 yrs old stock fuel pump and go from there. Let's not forget that MX6 GT SOHC head flows like crap... 12V only!!!You will need more thancouple of mods to get 13 sec flat , plus some hardcore weight saving too. |
Originally posted by Roddimus Prime compared to a protege it's almost twice as powerful....yeah, I'd call that fast....also it's 198lb/ft for $600. 198 lbs. of trq. just isn't that much power. There are PLENTY of cars out there in the 20k range that make that much stock. |
Ceej....the $20K range??? He paid $600!!! I think you're missing the point......and there is only 1 car in the $20K range that makes power like that....the Neon SRT-4 and it's $21K.
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Originally posted by Ceej 198 lbs. of trq. just isn't that much power. There are PLENTY of cars out there in the 20k range that make that much stock. |
actually you give Mustang Gt's too much credit...94-98 GT's had max of about 240hp and they were heavy as hell. I did actually beat a GT on the way home from work like 2days after i bought the car. Never made any claims to beat a TA...however straight up by the numbers an '88 TA is slower than an 88 MX-6 GT...and actually plenty of members on MX6.com have upped boost without a rebuild..plus mine has fairly low miles for an '88..100 thousand even on the odometer. Plus I did a compression test and I'm reading 157 +/- 3 across the cylinders...I do need the chip also,I hit boost cut like crazy when the TB boot leaked, so I know its working on my car...fuel management is what the zombie chip is for, it does enrich the fuel maps.Plus there are guys running up to 14lbs on stock fuel.I will bew upgrading to the bigger injectors off the 90-92 gt's,but this will cost me maybe $30 at the junkyard i go to. Trust me I know this car...my brother in law has one too, he has had his for 2-3 years and I have helped him work on his plenty. And I think that 3",zombie chip,and a boost controller should get me to about 215 hp 275 lb-ft...which should get me into the 13's
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Originally posted by macdaddyslomo I do need the chip also,I hit boost cut like crazy when the TB boot leaked, so I know its working on my car Talk to Flapoc-pres his on Probetalk..His 89 Probe is boosting past boost cut without a chip. Plus there are guys running up to 14lbs on stock fuel.I will bew upgrading to the bigger injectors off the 90-92 gt's,but this will cost me maybe $30 at the junkyard i go to. Trust me I know this car...my brother in law has one too, he has had his for 2-3 years and I have helped him work on his plenty. And I think that 3",zombie chip,and a boost controller should get me to about 215 hp 275 lb-ft...which should get me into the 13's All I'm saying don't rush it . You are gonna blow it upif you are not careful. I would hate to see your post on MX6.com " Guy's I lost boost and CP check was not so good" It's all good man. Oh, BTW what does the relay(black) under BP ECU? I have ATX harness too. Maybe I need to hunt MTX harness to see what's up .. I have FE3 project going on and I was trying to make BP ECU work? |
Originally posted by Roddimus Prime Ceej....the $20K range??? He paid $600!!! I think you're missing the point......and there is only 1 car in the $20K range that makes power like that....the Neon SRT-4 and it's $21K. |
I also think he missed the part that it make 198lb ft to the wheels..thats more like 240lb-ft to the advertisement readers that just look at manufacturers specs on cars
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just to clarify the 94-98 Gt's made 225hp. I owned a 94 GT vert and it was slow as hell until you got it on the interstate and would eat some people up!
Hey Mac, I'm taking my wife to orlando for our anniversary this year in december. We're going to Universal Studios and Disney World. How far away are you?? We should get together and spend the day totalling up how much I'm getting ripped off!! |
actually im only like an hour away. I go up there all the time though, in fact i was at disney last week. We might just have to coordinate a meet up there in O-town or something or even a drive at old town..they are in Kissimmee and have car meets all the time
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Very nice...my wife is decidng on what she wants her new car to be....I showed her the 04 Mazda3s, the 05 Focus ST 2.3L, and the Scion xB.....all three in the same $18K price range....she likes the mazda best!! What can I say, I love this girl!!
If we have a new car by then we'll drive it down, if not, I'll be in my modded P5. Should be a neat cruise with no cats, hot cams, full exhaust, intake, and a lightened interior (no sound deadening!). |
Car-Stats.com Report for 1988 Mazda MX-6
Obtained from 0-60: 7.5 Transmission: Unknown 1/4 Mile: 15.7 Car-Stats.com Report for 1991 Pontiac Firebird Formula Obtained from 0-60: 6.5 Transmission: Unknown 1/4 Mile: 14.8 1987 Trans Am GTA with 5.7L V8 and 3.27 : 1 rear axle: 0 - 60 mph: 6.89 seconds 1/4 Mile, Elapsed Time: 15.35 seconds @ 91.6 mph Lateral Acceleration: 0.84 g |
Well we have had guys on mx6.com pull 15.3's stock so those times are off ...omg this guy is so lucky though that Ryan and Jason take so long to respond...and once again my comparison was a Trans Am and a MX-6 GT same year...not a Formula and not a Trans Am GTA...and again lead sleds..On a real race course I'd eat them alive...Try and put a TA thru the twisties. Can you say oversteer
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Originally posted by macdaddyslomo Well we have had guys on mx6.com pull 15.3's stock so those times are off ...omg this guy is so lucky though that Ryan and Jason take so long to respond...and once again my comparison was a Trans Am and a MX-6 GT same year...not a Formula and not a Trans Am GTA...and again lead sleds..On a real race course I'd eat them alive...Try and put a TA thru the twisties. Can you say oversteer There is no difference between a Formula/Trans AM/GTA. All the same car. You could uh? LOL. Here is what Pontiac did in the Grand Am cup/motorola cup series from 1998 on... real racing. http://www.grandamerican.com/grandam...ve/98_man.html 1st http://www.grandamerican.com/grandam...ve/99_man.html 2nd http://www.grandamerican.com/grandam...ve/00_man.html 1st After moving to the United States in the early ’80s, he started racing cars professionally in 1984 and took his first professional win in the IMSA Firestone Firehawk Endurance Championship in 1986 at Sears Point in a Pontiac Firebird. Pilgrim won 20 more races in 106 Firehawk series' starts in the next decade. Considering the level of competition in Firehawk, his 20 percent win ratio is remarkable. Andy’s unbeaten – and likely unbeatable – world record of 116 consecutive race finishes in IMSA / PSCR events is unprecedented. http://media.gm.com/events/autoshows...grim%20Bio.htm |
umm yes there is a difference in the Trans Am and the GTA..the Trans Am came with a 5.0L V8 making a whopping 175 hp...the 5.7L was an optional engine and definitely was not the norm. To add, 88 Trans Am's with a 5.7L are far and few in between while the 5.0L's are a dime a dozen...once again apples to Oranges though..when your arguement for that one doesnt work you flip to comparing a 98 Trans Am to an 88 MX-6.You also include a professional driver behind the wheel of a car that is race prepped...Here's a better statement..You put me behind the wheel of my car and you behind the wheel of a Trans Am on a race course and I will kick your ass. And they wouldnt even be in the same classes. How 'bout that:rolleyes:
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LOL uh huh. Again, those are stock production cars. They get exhaust and tire upgrades and the obvious safety equipment. That's it. And when put up against "superior" sports cars, who won again? Oh right, pontiacs.
Yup, you could give a regular TBI TA from 1987 a run. Not so sure around a road course. And I am not the best road course racer having never been on one, but at F1 Boston, my first time on the track, I was 1.7 seconds off the TRACK RECORD. I would put a stock trans am against anything in road racing. Especially a MX6 and you driving it. Let me know when you post those timeslips. |
Ok lets square this away. First i said 1988 not 87...second, Standard equipment on those TA's are 5.0L's with 175 hp 225lb-ft torque...this is per Pontiac...I work for Ford so I have access to ALL manufacterers released FULL Vehicle Specifications..and it wouldn't be much of a run...Same HP's for both cars but a 800lb difference in weight..I'd smoke the same year TA in a straight line...A road course would be worse.... hmm RWD solid rear axle heavy car with a rediculous ancient chassis design vs FWD lightweight car independent rear suspension and auto adjustable suspension, with a much more rigid chassis...Also in there hey-day the MX-6 ruled their SCCA classes....as soon as I get a chance to go to Lakeland Drag Strip I'll be happy to post time slips...you also wouldnt be able to provide any info to prove any different that F-body's are LEAD SLEDS...btw..wheres the timeslips for your almost Track Record performance at Malibu Grand Prix,lol
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cool pic!
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It even has the single wiper mod
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I've wanted an MX6 GT forever! I loved my old DX but decided that my turbo power would come in RX-7 form when it became time for that.
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