Gas Prices Ahhh!!!!!!!!!!
February-17th-2003, 09:09 AM
#32
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Warrington, PA
Posts: 119
I will enjoy the 30 mpg + from my pro even more during price spikes. The cost of gas in Europe and Asia makes it much more tolerable. I guess that is why the public transportation system is so much better in these countries. ( I'm sure somone will prove me wrong).
Hiho - the Arizona adventure is off?
Hiho - the Arizona adventure is off?
February-17th-2003, 11:33 AM
#33
Show Layne some respect
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Long Island,NY
Posts: 2,458
Originally posted by brogeflog
Hiho - the Arizona adventure is off?
Hiho - the Arizona adventure is off?
But - there's just no money out there for me. I'd have wound up working twice as hard for almost 1/2 the money I make in NY. The whole object of going would have been to be better off financially relatively speaking (spend less and make less, but proportionally making "more" due to the greatly decreased cost of living). Since that really wasn't possible, we decided not to move out there.
Dissappointing for sure, but we at least made a great vacation out of our time out west.
Thanx for asking, tho!
~HH
February-20th-2003, 11:00 AM
#34
Hu Flung Pu
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: San Salvador, El Salvador
Posts: 341
Went to fill up yesterday at Texaco....
Prices were:
Premium (97 Oct): $2.12 per gal.
Regular (90 Oct): $2.04 per gal.
Diesel: $1.87 per gal.
I´m going to go back to Premium net time... I don´t even save a dollar every time I fill up.
Prices were:
Premium (97 Oct): $2.12 per gal.
Regular (90 Oct): $2.04 per gal.
Diesel: $1.87 per gal.
I´m going to go back to Premium net time... I don´t even save a dollar every time I fill up.
March-9th-2003, 08:53 PM
#36
WAZZU
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Seattle,WA
Posts: 613
It is now officially 1.92 per gallon for regular 87 octane. (And this is for Arco gas).
Shell gas is now 1.96 per gallon for regular 87 octane.
And our lovely washington state government thought that because it was increasing so much that they want to add another gas tax on top of what the pump is charging us....
Shell gas is now 1.96 per gallon for regular 87 octane.
And our lovely washington state government thought that because it was increasing so much that they want to add another gas tax on top of what the pump is charging us....
Last edited by SEA_P5; March-9th-2003 at 08:55 PM.
March-9th-2003, 09:08 PM
#37
Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Kelowna, BC
Posts: 253
Originally posted by SEA_P5
It is now officially 1.92 per gallon for regular 87 octane. (And this is for Arco gas).
Shell gas is now 1.96 per gallon for regular 87 octane.
And our lovely washington state government thought that because it was increasing so much that they want to add another gas tax on top of what the pump is charging us....
It is now officially 1.92 per gallon for regular 87 octane. (And this is for Arco gas).
Shell gas is now 1.96 per gallon for regular 87 octane.
And our lovely washington state government thought that because it was increasing so much that they want to add another gas tax on top of what the pump is charging us....
Going price around here is now $2.26USD/gallon for 87 octane (87.4 cents/litre).
March-9th-2003, 09:41 PM
#38
**Punani Lover**
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Hawaii (duh!)
Posts: 1,861
Originally posted by mopho
In the US Gasoline is one of the cheapest items you can buy by the gallon, Orange juice and milk cost more. Check this out
In the US Gasoline is one of the cheapest items you can buy by the gallon, Orange juice and milk cost more. Check this out
bastards!
March-10th-2003, 11:23 AM
#39
P1 Student
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Northern VA, Fairfax
Posts: 531
Okay, I do mind rising gas prices, but
it would be alright if somebody or someone
would give us a decent explaination of why
the prices are skyrocketing?
I mean, there is not war(although, we are at the brink of one), there is no shortage of gas, the US has reserves and such
any body knows
it would be alright if somebody or someone
would give us a decent explaination of why
the prices are skyrocketing?
I mean, there is not war(although, we are at the brink of one), there is no shortage of gas, the US has reserves and such
any body knows
March-10th-2003, 11:51 AM
#40
WAZZU
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Seattle,WA
Posts: 613
Quick way to make a buck off the general public. Increases profit line for the OPEC...why does not the government sue them for being a monopoly or price fixing?
They tried to do it against Microsoft, why not them!
They tried to do it against Microsoft, why not them!
March-10th-2003, 12:56 PM
#41
Demands Perfection
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 344
Fine By Me
As expensive as fuel is becoming, I don't see it as a bad thing, personally.
First off, I've long been offended by the glutinous abandon yielded by dumbass SUV drivers, and am happy to see them paying out their *** for fuel. They deserve what they're getting and more. ********.
Secondly, any time fuel costs are high, sales of efficient vehicles go up, and here's what that means:
1. Less pollution.
2. Less congestion, as these cars take up less space on the highway, to park, etc.
3. Safer roadways. The SUV is a proven safety hazard, and people are needlessly dying each year because of the careless, self serving mentality of SUV drivers. ********.
4. More money for people to use on other things-- Like making improvements to your car, improvements to your home, giving money to worthy causes, etc..
5. It encourages the use of public transportation, which, regardless of whether people look down on it as "uncool" or whatever, is a responsible, efficient, honorable way to get around. And it costs less than driving your own car (think about it: Insurance, fuel, maintenance, etc.. It adds up. For real).
6. It encourages people to walk, skateboard, ride their bikes-- Whatever method of human transportation works for them. That promotes better health, helps you feel better, and, realistically improves work performance. If you're healthy you're going to work better. It also creates less traffic congestion.
7. We rely less of foreign oil. It's as simple as that.
8. It encourages the development of clean, alternative fuels and technologies. Look, fossil fuels are a finite resource, and what that means is we're going to run out of this nasty crap sooner or later. Clean, efficient alternative fuels are our inevitable future no matter how much people just love gasoline and the internal combustion engine-- We will HAVE to move on to something else before too long, anyway. The ICE is destined to be remembered as a disgusting, dirty, toxic, inefficient dinosaur, and some day people will look back on us with amazement that we actually lived in such repulsive, unclean conditions. Mark my words: Given enough time and the change of technologies, people will look back on gasoline engines as pathetic relics of yesteryear. And they'll also hate us for having to deal with what we've done to them from our time-- Old gas stations that leaked and poisoned the water table and soil, old refineries and what to do with them, etc.. All of these things people after us will have to deal with, all for no fault of their own. It will be us deferring problems to someone else who is totally innocent and undeserving. Because I have a conscience and am a forward thinker, I already feel ashamed for what later generations are going to have to pay for for what we've done. It's no joke. This is real.
And on a personal note, I deliberately live close to where I work, anyway-- You know, kind of like how people used to live in decades past. What that means is I don't have to drive my car to work (and don't want to in any event). I have a nice 10 minute walk through campus every day, I create zero pollution, I don't take up parking spaces, I don't have to pay for fuel, and I can take advantage of insurance discounts because I get to put on my policy, "Miles driven to workplace: 0". I win in every way.
No one would suggest that high fuel costs are fun or otherwise easy to deal with, but if more people in general considered relying less on their cars, or at least made better efforts to drive more efficient cars, the issue of fuel cost would be less troublesome.
But at least people on this forum drive reasonably efficient vehicles in the Protege-- That much I commend everyone for. Although higher fuel costs hit all of us, we at least have the advantage of suffering less of an impact by such things.
So next time you pull up next to an SUV *******, roll down your window and yell to them, "30 mpg!", and point at your car and smile. In my opinion they deserve riducule because almost none of them use these vehicles for their intended purpose, and their sorry, oblivious to reality, hurtful, inefficient, polluting, self serving, "drive a big vehicle because I have no self confidence" attitudes damage the strength of our society and undermine responsible people's efforts to bring better alternatives to the world.
So let fuel costs stay high. No pain, no gain.
First off, I've long been offended by the glutinous abandon yielded by dumbass SUV drivers, and am happy to see them paying out their *** for fuel. They deserve what they're getting and more. ********.
Secondly, any time fuel costs are high, sales of efficient vehicles go up, and here's what that means:
1. Less pollution.
2. Less congestion, as these cars take up less space on the highway, to park, etc.
3. Safer roadways. The SUV is a proven safety hazard, and people are needlessly dying each year because of the careless, self serving mentality of SUV drivers. ********.
4. More money for people to use on other things-- Like making improvements to your car, improvements to your home, giving money to worthy causes, etc..
5. It encourages the use of public transportation, which, regardless of whether people look down on it as "uncool" or whatever, is a responsible, efficient, honorable way to get around. And it costs less than driving your own car (think about it: Insurance, fuel, maintenance, etc.. It adds up. For real).
6. It encourages people to walk, skateboard, ride their bikes-- Whatever method of human transportation works for them. That promotes better health, helps you feel better, and, realistically improves work performance. If you're healthy you're going to work better. It also creates less traffic congestion.
7. We rely less of foreign oil. It's as simple as that.
8. It encourages the development of clean, alternative fuels and technologies. Look, fossil fuels are a finite resource, and what that means is we're going to run out of this nasty crap sooner or later. Clean, efficient alternative fuels are our inevitable future no matter how much people just love gasoline and the internal combustion engine-- We will HAVE to move on to something else before too long, anyway. The ICE is destined to be remembered as a disgusting, dirty, toxic, inefficient dinosaur, and some day people will look back on us with amazement that we actually lived in such repulsive, unclean conditions. Mark my words: Given enough time and the change of technologies, people will look back on gasoline engines as pathetic relics of yesteryear. And they'll also hate us for having to deal with what we've done to them from our time-- Old gas stations that leaked and poisoned the water table and soil, old refineries and what to do with them, etc.. All of these things people after us will have to deal with, all for no fault of their own. It will be us deferring problems to someone else who is totally innocent and undeserving. Because I have a conscience and am a forward thinker, I already feel ashamed for what later generations are going to have to pay for for what we've done. It's no joke. This is real.
And on a personal note, I deliberately live close to where I work, anyway-- You know, kind of like how people used to live in decades past. What that means is I don't have to drive my car to work (and don't want to in any event). I have a nice 10 minute walk through campus every day, I create zero pollution, I don't take up parking spaces, I don't have to pay for fuel, and I can take advantage of insurance discounts because I get to put on my policy, "Miles driven to workplace: 0". I win in every way.
No one would suggest that high fuel costs are fun or otherwise easy to deal with, but if more people in general considered relying less on their cars, or at least made better efforts to drive more efficient cars, the issue of fuel cost would be less troublesome.
But at least people on this forum drive reasonably efficient vehicles in the Protege-- That much I commend everyone for. Although higher fuel costs hit all of us, we at least have the advantage of suffering less of an impact by such things.
So next time you pull up next to an SUV *******, roll down your window and yell to them, "30 mpg!", and point at your car and smile. In my opinion they deserve riducule because almost none of them use these vehicles for their intended purpose, and their sorry, oblivious to reality, hurtful, inefficient, polluting, self serving, "drive a big vehicle because I have no self confidence" attitudes damage the strength of our society and undermine responsible people's efforts to bring better alternatives to the world.
So let fuel costs stay high. No pain, no gain.
Last edited by ProtegeMaster; March-10th-2003 at 01:07 PM.
March-10th-2003, 02:44 PM
#42
Lack of Zoom Zoom!
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 207
Gas here in Utah is $1.67 for the cheap crap and $1.87 for the good stuff...Its never been 2 bucks here, that I can reamber, thou we have oil factorys very close to where I live, so that could explain it
March-10th-2003, 02:48 PM
#43
Lack of Zoom Zoom!
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Denver, Colorado
Posts: 207
another thing, If it wasent for all those damn SUV;s and big trucks and all those other gas hogs out there gas would be probley around a dollar a gallon...I think we should all destroy all the big gas hoggin machines out there and give them geo meteros
