kenji4861

http://www.honda.co.jp/CIVIC/lineup/lineup_c.html

First of all will there be a 4 door version of the Civic Si like the one from Japan?

How does this compare with Protege5?

Mp34ME

ya its faster but it looks horrible! ill stick with my Mp3! Thanks but no thanks

<<MP5DuCe>>

Im not sure if it will be coming over here in a 4 door .... But that THING is definitely fuGLY ... The shifter being on the dash seems to be a new fadd though... didn't the Matrix have that as well... i think so.. anyhow, I would much rather have my P5 anyday of the week..!

nightowl

damn i think that car fell off the ugly tree and hit every branch on the way down.......it looks like a toyota echo or pirus (which are also ugly!)

StuttersC

I think that shifter on the dash is supposed to be "rally inspired." But, it still looks wierd.

The side of the car is flat, what's up with that?

kore

One thing I think we are forgetting. The Pro5 is cheaper than the Civic Si (here in Canada), so the SiR will be even more expensive. Probably in the $24 - $26k range. So, bang for the buck, I still think the Pro5 is tops.

cfbjr

DORKY!
I don't know what rally car that shifter would be from but most rally cars just have an extension on the regular shifter or they have levers behind the steering wheel. They also have hand brakes for the rear wheels which helps them make those wicked hairpin turns. Besides, that looks like an A/T. GEEZ you could put a bench seat in the front! But they're probably saving that for the aftermarket along with wood panels!

sunbyrne

I thought it was only coming in a 2-door, which would be stupid.

And yes, it's fugly all right.

awdPro

that thing is so ridiculous. it looks like **** and isn't sporty at all. why the hell does the 2.0 only make 160hp? i would think it'd get more than that since the s2000 is 2.0 and gets 240 hp.

oh well honda sucks ***

kenji4861

Looks like Civic SiR isn't going to do that well. I just talked to my car enthusiast friend that's Honda crazy. He's planning to sell his 98 Civic Coupe for a 92 Civic Hatch. I told him if he waits, he can get the Civic Si Hatch. Response was "it looks like ****."

rowan

If you're going to drop 24K on a 3-door car, might as well go for the Ford Focus SVT. Much better value for dollar on that than this mutant Honda thingy...

How can Honda claim to put out a "rally inspired" shifter? They don't even participte in rally events! Plus, how many rally cars do you see that have the shifter on the center console. haha.

WRX? - nope - paddle
206? - nope - double ring
Focus? - nope - lever next to steering wheel
Lancer? - nope - stick

bah.. Honda's so out of touch with the performance market it's embarassing. They can keep their snotty noses stuck into F1 :P

funkdaddysmack

I've been chillin' on a CRX board for a little while and all of them hate it as well. Here's some more food for thought:

2002 Civic Si w/ 160 HP, weighs 2800lbs. I'm just guessing here, but that's a lot of weight so such a (supopsedly) small and sporty car. As for the looks, I seem to be the only one that likes it. That's fine with me, I don't mind : )

Why is the Pro5 and the Si being compared anyways? They really aren't that similar!

The Pro5 definately has the Si whooped in the looks department, but I still do like the looks of the Si. I've always liked hatchbacks (hence my fugly 323, hehehe).

Even though I like it, almost every honda owner I've seen on a board hates the new Si. That's kind of interesting.

funkdaddysmack

Upon further inspection.... They car IS pretty ugly... I still like the interior though.... The car looks like a Honda Odessy (sp?) mini-me. Stick a sliding door on that sucka, and you've got a minivan for "small people"

sunbyrne

I think funkdaddysmack has it right--there's something just a little too minivan about it. Still, not as ugly as the Matrix or, even worse, the Vibe.

20FS

in JPN, euro, Australia, it does get more power, just not in this stupid country