HiBoost

We alraedy got our brand new Mazda3 to start the new project.

We will have a complete turbo kit available by February 2005. It will be a very good quality kit with a one year warranty and lifetime in all castings like piping, manifold, downpipe and intercooler.

The kit will have all parts and components to bolt it on and writen instructions as well as digital video of the install process.

We are also expanding to have an install shop in Miami and distributors in California, Texas and Florida to cover most of the US market form those three locations.

We have our own car to do all tests, taking it to the limit as we did with the P5, and offer a proven product not a customer's car in which you are limited to a few days.

The kit will have:

Cast iron Manifold
Ball Bearing turbo
Cast iron downpipe
Front mounted intercooler
Powder coated piping
Stainless steel braided oil lines
Silicone hoses
Stainless steel hardware
Haltech ECU Pre mapped and pre wired
Digital video install process
Intake system with 3 inch open end air filter

If anyone is interested, we already have a long list of people waiting, you can e mail us at info@hiboost.com

Juan

Roddimus Prime

sounds good Juan. A lot of 2.3L guys have been clamoring for some FI.

p.s. PM me please. I have a few questons for you about my F10X.

HiBoost

The first dyno is already made. The car made 235 WHP at 7 psi of boost. We will try diffrent turbos to see which is the best for the application.

I will keep updated the progress.

Juan

Roddimus Prime

thats amazing. That's EVO and STi terrirtory right there....for $10K less!

Idonthaveamazda

Dont kid yourself...


So whats the compression ratio on a 3 anyways? my guess is 10:1, not too good for a turbo set up, Im guessing if you threw in a metal headgasket it will lower a bit, but pistons would be the best way to drop it of course.

It sounds like a good deal, but for how much $$$$? I see the other kit you have for the "p5" and its like... 4k. You should really make this kit more affordable.

And any info on what size turbo youre running? t3? t04e? and im guessing the engine wont be able to hold that much without rebuilding.

Also with that turbo setup you need to redo your fuel, bigger injectors and bigger fuel pump: Walbro pump and at -least- 370cc, 550s would be better indeed but having to tune the ecu for it would be a pain.

Exhaust is a must of course, 3" or bust, and try passing emissions with no cat, oh boy that sounds like fun to me.

So this kit is gonna need other things to make it run decently, and thats adding money to the already 5000000000 youre gonna be asking for it, do us a favor and drop the price. <3

Roddimus Prime

I'm going to cut you some slack since you're new here but let's get a few things straight first.

#1. Juan from HiBoost is a valued member and vendor. His turbo kits are top notch and I have not heard of ONE person having any problems with ANYTHNG he's made.

#2. He's already dyno'd this kit. The numbers are in. What is there to debate??

#3. "I see the other kit you have for the "p5" and its like... 4k." do you know? It's the only kit to come with actual fuel management. It's not using a simple vaccuum-based fmu it includes a Haltech F10X fuel controller that retails for $1K by itself. That's value and quality all in one. You should do YOUR homework first.

#4. "And any info on what size turbo youre running? t3? t04e? and im guessing the engine wont be able to hold that much without rebuilding." He uses a VF-series turbo in his P5 kits and I'dassume this kit is the same. If the only turbo's you know are T3/T4 then you need NOT chime in with criticism.

#5. "with that turbo setup you need to redo your fuel, bigger injectors and bigger fuel pump: " wrong again. The stock 2.0L fuel system EASILY supports 250whp which is over 280bhp. The fuel system in the new 2.3L motor is a tad larger than that also. Again, you should do your homework.

#6. "Exhaust is a must of course, 3" or bust," I agree with you here but Juan knows what he's doing. The exhaust side of his kit will mount up to the stock exhaust at some point. If you want more performance than I suggest you get a larger exhaust. It is not Juan's responisibilty to provide you with a full exhaust...no'one does this and it's stupid to expect him to when your very next complaint is having him lower the price.

#7. "do us a favor and drop the price. <3" Why don't you do us a favor and not flame a well-respected member of our community and a vendor in good standing for a long time. You are OBVIOUSLY out of your league here when you try to rip into HiBoost's quality.

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p.s. This is a "polite" forum and we don't tolerate pointless flaming, foul language, blatent stupidity, etc. Welcome.

macdaddyslomo

^what he said^

beat me to the punch

Idonthaveamazda

Pardon but did I say t3/t4? No sir. T04e is a decent sized turbos used on smaller engines, the T3 will support up to 250 hp as well. Theres plent of turbos that can be used for this amount of hp too like t25 and t28s.

Upgrading your fuel is a big part as well, why would you want to even consider leaning out the engine that much cause you think the stock fuel can handle it, safe then sorry right?

Theres not too much flaming im just asking whats in the kit, hell if I know what turbo he is using to do all this, quality? did I ever say his stuff is poor? no, but I feel the price is way too high for even that, go ahead and say what you will, im not looking to get into an argument about how to spend your damn money.

Roddimus Prime

When I said "t3/t4" I meant "t3 SLASH t4"....not a hybrid turbo.

Why would I want to consider leaning out my fuel system>??? You OBVIOUSLY did not read what I posted. Juan includes the Haltech F10X stand alone fuel computer in every turbo kit. The Haltech controls all the fuel duties. It adds fuel as it needs to based on readings from the IAT, CT, MAP, TPS and CPS....it's dead accurate and a very proven form of EMS for almost a decade.

If you feel his prices are high you should shop around. Other vendors sell similar kits without a "proper" EMS for the exact same price. I don't know why you think you can get quality without paying for it?? This isn't a honda civic kit that will sell 10K units...it's for protege's and mazda3's that may sell 200 or so tops.

Idonthaveamazda

I understand that, yes the fuel computer will control fuel duties, but what if youre INJECTORS cant? or your FUEL PUMP cant do that many cycles?

So if I were to say, Mr Roddimus Prime, Im giving you orders to do 100 push ups, and you cant do it... leaning out.

And yeah they will sell only about 200 kits, but what happens if they lower their price, its quite possible that they will sell 250 kits, and also make the same amount of money.

Roddimus Prime

your logic is flawed.


#1. The stock fuel system is PLENTY capable of runnign the power numbers he's claimed. You're also forgetting the main point I made...There have been NO PROBLEMS with any hiboost kit...none. It is obviously designed to work well with our stock fuel systems. This is a non-issue. He's not making 400hp and expecting the stock injectors to handle it.

#2. I couldn't do 100 pushups but I could probably kill a regular sized man in one punch....so who is "leaned out"??

#3. What if he lowers the price and still only sells 200 kits and is broke and has to leave the mazda community for more profitable pastures?? Also with smaller vendors like myself I can't afford to "guess at how many units I can sell. I have to be as honest as I can so I don't overextend myself and go into debt and put everything I own at risk. It's called being a practical business person.

Idonthaveamazda

Touche.

hughes412

Well I have to agree with Rodd on this one! If you have done your homework you already know that when building any Protege it's gona cost more. The market isn't as strong as the others. But on the bright side the OTHERS don't come near the quality and price as the Mazdas. 4k for a COMPLETE kit is not bad at all! I have seen parshalls going as high as 3k. Than you still have all of the other STUFF to buy install and you still need the Fuel regulator (add 1k to that)!
The point is to buy and have installed your still looking at 3-5k anywhere, but he is selling one hell of a kit putting out 235 whp and still working the bugs out! It could be putting out alot more hp for the same price!
And for that, THATS A DEAL!

Roddimus Prime

Yeah, Juan mentioned that he wanted to try a few different sized turbo's to see which is best for the application. Also his 235whp @ 7psi was done without final tuning. I bet there's EASILY 20whp more left once the tuning is done.

On my turbo pinto I added an aftermarket ignition module and retarded the timing a hair and made an extra 38whp.

macdaddyslomo

just as a comparison number, what does a 3S dyno at stock??