New Turbo kit from HiBoost soon
 

We alraedy got our brand new Mazda3 to start the new project.

We will have a complete turbo kit available by February 2005. It will be a very good quality kit with a one year warranty and lifetime in all castings like piping, manifold, downpipe and intercooler.

The kit will have all parts and components to bolt it on and writen instructions as well as digital video of the install process.

We are also expanding to have an install shop in Miami and distributors in California, Texas and Florida to cover most of the US market form those three locations.

We have our own car to do all tests, taking it to the limit as we did with the P5, and offer a proven product not a customer's car in which you are limited to a few days.

The kit will have:

Cast iron Manifold
Ball Bearing turbo
Cast iron downpipe
Front mounted intercooler
Powder coated piping
Stainless steel braided oil lines
Silicone hoses
Stainless steel hardware
Haltech ECU Pre mapped and pre wired
Digital video install process
Intake system with 3 inch open end air filter

If anyone is interested, we already have a long list of people waiting, you can e mail us at info@hiboost.com

Juan

sounds good Juan. A lot of 2.3L guys have been clamoring for some FI.

p.s. PM me please. I have a few questons for you about my F10X.

The first dyno is already made. The car made 235 WHP at 7 psi of boost. We will try diffrent turbos to see which is the best for the application.

I will keep updated the progress.

Juan

thats amazing. That's EVO and STi terrirtory right there....for $10K less!

Dont kid yourself...


So whats the compression ratio on a 3 anyways? my guess is 10:1, not too good for a turbo set up, Im guessing if you threw in a metal headgasket it will lower a bit, but pistons would be the best way to drop it of course.

It sounds like a good deal, but for how much $$$$? I see the other kit you have for the "p5" and its like... 4k. You should really make this kit more affordable.

And any info on what size turbo youre running? t3? t04e? and im guessing the engine wont be able to hold that much without rebuilding.

Also with that turbo setup you need to redo your fuel, bigger injectors and bigger fuel pump: Walbro pump and at -least- 370cc, 550s would be better indeed but having to tune the ecu for it would be a pain.

Exhaust is a must of course, 3" or bust, and try passing emissions with no cat, oh boy that sounds like fun to me.

So this kit is gonna need other things to make it run decently, and thats adding money to the already 5000000000 youre gonna be asking for it, do us a favor and drop the price. <3

I'm going to cut you some slack since you're new here but let's get a few things straight first.

#1. Juan from HiBoost is a valued member and vendor. His turbo kits are top notch and I have not heard of ONE person having any problems with ANYTHNG he's made.

#2. He's already dyno'd this kit. The numbers are in. What is there to debate??

#3. "I see the other kit you have for the "p5" and its like... 4k." do you know? It's the only kit to come with actual fuel management. It's not using a simple vaccuum-based fmu it includes a Haltech F10X fuel controller that retails for $1K by itself. That's value and quality all in one. You should do YOUR homework first.

#4. "And any info on what size turbo youre running? t3? t04e? and im guessing the engine wont be able to hold that much without rebuilding." He uses a VF-series turbo in his P5 kits and I'dassume this kit is the same. If the only turbo's you know are T3/T4 then you need NOT chime in with criticism.

#5. "with that turbo setup you need to redo your fuel, bigger injectors and bigger fuel pump: " wrong again. The stock 2.0L fuel system EASILY supports 250whp which is over 280bhp. The fuel system in the new 2.3L motor is a tad larger than that also. Again, you should do your homework.

#6. "Exhaust is a must of course, 3" or bust," I agree with you here but Juan knows what he's doing. The exhaust side of his kit will mount up to the stock exhaust at some point. If you want more performance than I suggest you get a larger exhaust. It is not Juan's responisibilty to provide you with a full exhaust...no'one does this and it's stupid to expect him to when your very next complaint is having him lower the price.

#7. "do us a favor and drop the price. <3" Why don't you do us a favor and not flame a well-respected member of our community and a vendor in good standing for a long time. You are OBVIOUSLY out of your league here when you try to rip into HiBoost's quality.

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p.s. This is a "polite" forum and we don't tolerate pointless flaming, foul language, blatent stupidity, etc. Welcome.

^what he said^

beat me to the punch :fight:

Pardon but did I say t3/t4? No sir. T04e is a decent sized turbos used on smaller engines, the T3 will support up to 250 hp as well. Theres plent of turbos that can be used for this amount of hp too like t25 and t28s.

Upgrading your fuel is a big part as well, why would you want to even consider leaning out the engine that much cause you think the stock fuel can handle it, safe then sorry right?

Theres not too much flaming im just asking whats in the kit, hell if I know what turbo he is using to do all this, quality? did I ever say his stuff is poor? no, but I feel the price is way too high for even that, go ahead and say what you will, im not looking to get into an argument about how to spend your damn money.

When I said "t3/t4" I meant "t3 SLASH t4"....not a hybrid turbo.

Why would I want to consider leaning out my fuel system>??? You OBVIOUSLY did not read what I posted. Juan includes the Haltech F10X stand alone fuel computer in every turbo kit. The Haltech controls all the fuel duties. It adds fuel as it needs to based on readings from the IAT, CT, MAP, TPS and CPS....it's dead accurate and a very proven form of EMS for almost a decade.

If you feel his prices are high you should shop around. Other vendors sell similar kits without a "proper" EMS for the exact same price. I don't know why you think you can get quality without paying for it?? This isn't a honda civic kit that will sell 10K units...it's for protege's and mazda3's that may sell 200 or so tops.

I understand that, yes the fuel computer will control fuel duties, but what if youre INJECTORS cant? or your FUEL PUMP cant do that many cycles?

So if I were to say, Mr Roddimus Prime, Im giving you orders to do 100 push ups, and you cant do it... leaning out.

And yeah they will sell only about 200 kits, but what happens if they lower their price, its quite possible that they will sell 250 kits, and also make the same amount of money.

your logic is flawed.


#1. The stock fuel system is PLENTY capable of runnign the power numbers he's claimed. You're also forgetting the main point I made...There have been NO PROBLEMS with any hiboost kit...none. It is obviously designed to work well with our stock fuel systems. This is a non-issue. He's not making 400hp and expecting the stock injectors to handle it.

#2. I couldn't do 100 pushups but I could probably kill a regular sized man in one punch....so who is "leaned out"??

#3. What if he lowers the price and still only sells 200 kits and is broke and has to leave the mazda community for more profitable pastures?? Also with smaller vendors like myself I can't afford to "guess at how many units I can sell. I have to be as honest as I can so I don't overextend myself and go into debt and put everything I own at risk. It's called being a practical business person.

Touche.

Well I have to agree with Rodd on this one! If you have done your homework you already know that when building any Protege it's gona cost more. The market isn't as strong as the others. But on the bright side the OTHERS don't come near the quality and price as the Mazdas. 4k for a COMPLETE kit is not bad at all! I have seen parshalls going as high as 3k. Than you still have all of the other STUFF to buy install and you still need the Fuel regulator (add 1k to that)!
The point is to buy and have installed your still looking at 3-5k anywhere, but he is selling one hell of a kit putting out 235 whp and still working the bugs out! It could be putting out alot more hp for the same price!
And for that, THATS A DEAL! :tit:

Yeah, Juan mentioned that he wanted to try a few different sized turbo's to see which is best for the application. Also his 235whp @ 7psi was done without final tuning. I bet there's EASILY 20whp more left once the tuning is done.

On my turbo pinto I added an aftermarket ignition module and retarded the timing a hair and made an extra 38whp.

just as a comparison number, what does a 3S dyno at stock??

the hiboost kit is great for what it is it adds over a 100hp on the protege's, if you want to make even more power than yes you will need some fuel mods , BTW i sell the kit for $4k INSTALLED that is pretty cheap for a turbo kit a haltech and the install-

Dynos about 135-140

still think it's too high ??

I mean this friendly, but your crazy! 4k for 100 more installed! FC3s Boy, If your still doing this when I get it paid for you and I will have a little talk!

I do have a question. Will the intercooler fit behind the stock LX frontend or do you also have to change that out?

what dyno's @ 135 not a stock protege

yea i will still have that price then

read my edit, i have to go home! see you in 1hr!

it will fit but it might take a little trimming of the grill (lower one)

the new 5-spd 3S's dyno about 142whp. Remember Juan's 2.3L kit is not finalized or even fully tuned yet. Once he selects the final turbo and spends the day tuning it I'm sure you'll see 250whp which is more than Evo8 or STi make in comparison.

I'm hooked.

If the 3 only had AWD.....Oh well a good lsd should make a big difference in launches

yeah, I hate launching my p5 hard but from a roll I wouldn't be scared to roll up on an Evo or STi.

threadjack. Matty, you get your charge piping done yet ??? All I saw was a spooling SC pumping air into the atmosphere so far

Have you actually raced an STi? Evos are nothing youre right, but STis put down about 280 to the wheels

Once I get everything back from DaveB I'll have the piping bent. I got a real good deal on it.

p.s. I have not personaly raced an STi but they dont put 280whp....theput down 230-ish...I've seen the dyno's. Also, there is a video fo a guy named CWill running 8psi on a P5 (T3 turbo) he made 171whp and from a roll he pulled the STi 3 times. he also ran a SRT4, TL 6spd, S2K, etc.....from a roll he walked off and left them. I don't make this stuff up...I have no reason to.

Idonthaveamazda,
It sounds like your trying to instigate something! This is a Mazda Forum; we are here because we genuinely like the Mazda cars, in this case the Proteges. Stock, yes they lack a little in the HP’s but in overall quality, handling, and to me the most important thing is COST OF OWNERSHIP, they rock! You can keep you 30,000.00 + cars! The cost of ownership on those or out the roof. Yes they are fast but any one with a wallet can get one. I like to build mine! I love it when one of your cars (meaning SRT, STI, EVO) pull up thinking there all hot and get pulled buy a guy that paid 15k less than him and only sunk 5k in mods! That’s HOT! And if that still isn’t enough for you to get off the I GOT TO MUCH MONEY band wagon and you still think those cars are fast, come on down to Austin. I got a few friends that have a couple of cars that run 8-12s and don’t even have 6k in them. Can you say BOWTIE!!

Yours truly,
BIG GUY IN LITTLE CAR!!!
PS
Sorry about the Threadjack, it's just these guys have a special place in my heart if you know what I mean!

Horsepower 300 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft.) 300 lb.-ft. @ 4000 rpm

From Subaru, of course thats flywheel, but I dont see how you think that will drop to 230 or lower. Im not saying youre lying about your friend in the p5, but I drive a 240sx Sr20det (I built it up, I didnt go out and buy a 30,000.00 dollar car, more like 8,000 all together) Estimated I have about 235 rwhp (estimated means nothing but we're gonna work of this) My friend bought an STi and it rapes me every day of my life, even from a roll I cant take it.

actually you would be surprised how much drivetrain loss an AWD system creates....235 sounds about right,although a P5 doesnt need that much power to beat an STI...the STI is a MUCH heavier car....maybe in your case its the driver, or you are just overestimating your power output

or he's lying......

And I thought I was being a little mean, OUCH!
I hear a FWD car looses about 30hp in drivetrain, and thats just 2 wheels. I can beleave it looses more, it has more to go through to get to the ground. I will go find out for sure and be back!

Ha, found one with few mods! Looks like manly upped the boost.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/arch.../t-609555.html

Looks like Rodd was right about the HP, Oh and found one more!
http://www.ultimate-racing.com/Produ...Index-US.shtml

Cause your 130 base horse power really really hauls ass. :bt:

Hey flaunt it if you got it right?


And yes, im so insecure for what I drive, OMG OMG NO!@!@!@!11212!!!

found some read my edit, go to the pages listed.

3298 sti curb weight
2749 protogay curb weight

OMFG THATS SO MUCH HEAVIER.

So what youre saying if your car loses 30 hp in transition to the wheels...

130-30 = 100 front wheel hp, whoah no way!

100 fwhp + 2749 weight = FASTER THAN STIS BABY WOOWOO. Im selling my car right now and going P5.

Well you would deffinatly be faster that what your in, and it would look way better!

One of this links isnt even an STi

Stock

http://forums.evolutionm.net/attachm...chmentid=49349

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?t=109574

:rofl: Tooo much funny. I will admit my car doesnt look the best out there, paint job this coming summer. But omg 100 front wheel horse power! NOOOOO, ive only upgraded my intake and exhaust and a few other things, but that doesnt matter cause your 100 front wheel horse power will own me! noooo.