new wheels
new wheels
October-21st-2007, 10:18 PM
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Pretty cool wheels. They sorta remind me of the Work Meister (think that's the right model). I'm sure they aren't nearly as light as the Work wheels, but probably not nearly as crazy expensive either!
Surprisingly they don't make the car look too 'tall'.. like it doesn't look like it is desperately in need of lowering springs
Surprisingly they don't make the car look too 'tall'.. like it doesn't look like it is desperately in need of lowering springs
October-22nd-2007, 07:30 AM
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the wheels are pretty nice, but i don't know, something doesn't sit right with me. whats the profile of the tyres? i'm probably wrong but the rolling diameter looks bigger than a stock wheel or even 18's.
i say drop it... i think it will rectify the awkward look of it.
nice work though... you gotta start somewhere!
October-22nd-2007, 01:32 PM
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thank i thought it would look stupid
the tire are 245-35-19 know but tomorrow im replacing the tire for 235-35-19 and im rolling the fenders tomorrow. thanks for the great feed back.
November-16th-2007, 12:58 PM
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Too big & heavy?
My only concerns are that if the wheel circumference is larger than stock it will make it a dog in acceleration and the speedo will be reading low.
And if the wheels are heavier and the tires as well then that will also affect it's acceleration(more of a dog) and ride.
They don't tell you this when they sell you the wheels & tires, they want your money so buyer's beware and do your homework!!!
And if the wheels are heavier and the tires as well then that will also affect it's acceleration(more of a dog) and ride.
They don't tell you this when they sell you the wheels & tires, they want your money so buyer's beware and do your homework!!!
November-16th-2007, 03:43 PM
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max. tire pressure formula
Yea the heavier wheel/tire combo and low profile tires combine to make the suspension work harder and feel harsher, more weight to affect & feed back to the car when you hit bumps. Lighter is better.
My experience with 17's and 205/40x17's on a previously owned '01 Civic coupe made me hate the wheels/tires because of the harsher ride, hunting & following cracks & imperfections in the road, pot holes in the street made me have to replace 3 of the original 4 tires and gas mileage went from a consistant 37 mpg(5 spd) down to 32 mpg.
They looked great and I constantly got compliments on the wheels but ended up selling them in 6 months and traded back to the stock 14's for the ride & mileage.
I figured I would keep my 3i within the stock size offerings from Mazda and since mine came with lite-weight 16 alloys and I like the simpler design of the stock 16" alloys mine came with I'm going to leave well enough alone.
I just replaced my tires from the BFG Traction TA's(hated these tires)with the first set of Goodyear tires(non-directional Goodyear EAGLE LS in 205/55x16)) I ever purchased in 32 years of driving. I absolutely love these tires for their quiet & smooth ride. They seem to be a bit sluggish in steering responce(could be improved with increased tire pressure) but since this car is strictly a everyday highway commuter I couldn't be happier.
There is a formula to find the max. tire pressure of any vehicle & any tire.
Max. load of tires x 4: (my example) 1279lbs. x 4 = 5116 lbs.
Divide the max. tire pressure into above total: 5116 lbs. divided by 44 psi = 116.2727
Now take your GVW and divide by the above resultant to get Max. tire pressure:
3807 lbs. GVW divided by 116.2727 = 32.7419 psi or about 33 psi.
I believe that DTC set them to 32 so I'll check tonight and adjust them to 33 and call it good.
My experience with 17's and 205/40x17's on a previously owned '01 Civic coupe made me hate the wheels/tires because of the harsher ride, hunting & following cracks & imperfections in the road, pot holes in the street made me have to replace 3 of the original 4 tires and gas mileage went from a consistant 37 mpg(5 spd) down to 32 mpg.
They looked great and I constantly got compliments on the wheels but ended up selling them in 6 months and traded back to the stock 14's for the ride & mileage.I figured I would keep my 3i within the stock size offerings from Mazda and since mine came with lite-weight 16 alloys and I like the simpler design of the stock 16" alloys mine came with I'm going to leave well enough alone.
I just replaced my tires from the BFG Traction TA's(hated these tires)with the first set of Goodyear tires(non-directional Goodyear EAGLE LS in 205/55x16)) I ever purchased in 32 years of driving. I absolutely love these tires for their quiet & smooth ride. They seem to be a bit sluggish in steering responce(could be improved with increased tire pressure) but since this car is strictly a everyday highway commuter I couldn't be happier.
There is a formula to find the max. tire pressure of any vehicle & any tire.
Max. load of tires x 4: (my example) 1279lbs. x 4 = 5116 lbs.
Divide the max. tire pressure into above total: 5116 lbs. divided by 44 psi = 116.2727
Now take your GVW and divide by the above resultant to get Max. tire pressure:
3807 lbs. GVW divided by 116.2727 = 32.7419 psi or about 33 psi.
I believe that DTC set them to 32 so I'll check tonight and adjust them to 33 and call it good.
November-16th-2007, 03:49 PM
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Well .. doesn't that math assume you are measuring the tire pressure when the tire is unloaded? who does that?
I am on 205/40-17 right now (hate them so much!!!!) but run 42psi front 40 rear when autocrossing and when I want to get 36mpg highway
I am on 205/40-17 right now (hate them so much!!!!) but run 42psi front 40 rear when autocrossing and when I want to get 36mpg highway
November-16th-2007, 04:07 PM
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I don't know about it being loaded or not. I don't think you're going to see any difference in psi either way.
The formula was given to a friend who got it from a major tire manufacturer and I believe it was Goodyear but it works for all makes & brands.
The formula is for normal everyday driving for the best & safest overall ride quality, wear, and traction for that weight.
Yea, if you autocross or race then you can run the pressures all the way to the tires max. pressure rating, but if the vehicle is not as heavy to reach the total of the tires max. combined load @ max. pressure you're going to have a harsh ride and uneven wear.
The formula was given to a friend who got it from a major tire manufacturer and I believe it was Goodyear but it works for all makes & brands.
The formula is for normal everyday driving for the best & safest overall ride quality, wear, and traction for that weight.
Yea, if you autocross or race then you can run the pressures all the way to the tires max. pressure rating, but if the vehicle is not as heavy to reach the total of the tires max. combined load @ max. pressure you're going to have a harsh ride and uneven wear.
