http://www.tripointengineering.com/C.../turbo_kit.htm

The numbers are weird but ...

Raptor

 

hmmm thats about $5300 cdn......better start saving

 

just out of curiosity, do you know anybody that does turbo installs around the ottawa/hull region????

 

anyone know what unit of measure they're using for the torque figures? we could only dream that it's pound feet

 

Probably Newton-meters. Regardless, that's a 98.9% increase in torque!!! The 69.1% increase in HP isn't to shabby either..


Very nice looking system.

 

Yeah, I'd be really happy with that type of torque increase.

 

Actually, the stock fuel pump is retained and works just fine. The main reason that they use 2 additional injectors and a controller is because they can't hack the stock ECU and get it to boost the output of the stock injectors. The additional injectors and controller are the easiest/least expensive option and work fine.

I spoke with Mark about this kit early in the week (I've been keeping in touch every couple weeks) and he said that the torque figures are in lb/ft. I can't believe that those numbers are correct. It's impossible for a stock MP3 to put down 208 ft lbs to the wheels. That's what he claimed over the phone. The engine is only rated at 142 at the crank. They also claim 400+ after the turbo install. The horsepower numbers look good though and are about what other places making turbo kits have estimated.

It does eliminate the primary cat so is not emissions legal. Keep in mind that it's a $2500-$10,000 fine to WHOEVER REMOVES IT, as well as up to a $2500 fine to WHOEVER OWNS AND THEN SELLS IT. If you have a car that was modified while you owned it, YOU will be subject to the fine. If the person you sell it to gets inspected, they will come after you.

I'm still waiting on the BEGI turbo kit to see what kind of numbers they get. It will retain the stock converter in the factory location and while it won't be EPA certified, it should pass any inspection including California. They aren't going to go through the lengthy certification process but they are going to build it so that it could be certified.

 

just my .02.....AERODYNE turbos SUCK!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Untrue according to a company that claims that a stock MP3 creates more torque than a VR-6 at the wheels.......

This does not give anywhere near enough evidence to prove that Traveler was incorrect or miss-informed. These guys are selling a product right? How much profit would they gain on adding some extra stuff like fuel injectors and other misc parts to their complete kit. If the profit is substantial than they sure is hell would not say "We included some extra things that you really don't need." The less things it takes to turbo your car the easier it is to do a custom setup. I would trust the guys Traveler dyno'd his car with rather then some people that want me to buy there turbo setup

 

What I think is the screwiest thing about the whole deal is the stock horsepower number.

I've seen 113 come out of a stock MP3 in Grassroots Motorsports, so how Tri-point got 98.2 is beyond me.

 

that amazes you more than 208 lb/ft (they claim) at the wheels?????

I agree with you on the MP3's HP though. Those numbers seem closer to a stock ES 2.0

 

They put the nM up on the torque, not the lb-ft. I know that one.

 

What is really going on with these claims is anyones' guess

 

That explains the numbers. I asked the guy who owned the car that Tri-point used what kind of dyno they used and he never said anything.

I kind of had a hunch they used something other than a Dynojet, but I forgot the name of the other dyno.

And I know Tri-point is good, they've been doing Mazdas for a long time.

 

How does a Clayton Dyno measure torque then? Does it still measure in lb/ft. I don't understand how it can simply "put out different numbers".

I was unaware of Tri-points reputation with Mazda. I was just trying to prevent any sudden conclusions. What kind of fuel system will the Mazdaspeed protege use? The specs and system used by Mazda for their factory built turbocharged car would be in my opinion the best resource for the capabilities of the FS. This will be a light pressure system I assume.