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Old March-14th-2003, 10:23 AM   #1  
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Question Help Pick A System Selection??

made a list of what i was looking at so far if anybody thats good with the audios help a brother out and let me know any suggestions on any of my selections???

2002 PYLE GEAR 12"
SUBWOOFER 2000W PAIR
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTONS
12" WOOFER
4 OHMS IMPEDANCE
2000 WATTS POWER HANDLING PAIR (1000 WATTS EACH)
2" VOICE COIL
KAPTON 4 LAYER VOICE COIL
SENSITIVITY 93DB
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 38HZ-4.2kHz
90 OZ. MAGNET STRUCTURE
4.5" MOUNTING DEPTH

ROCKWOOD USA
12" COMPETITION SUBWOOFER
1000 WATTS PER SUB 2000 WATTS TOTAL PER PAIR
DOUBLE DAMPER, DOUBLE MAGNET
DUAL TERMINAL 2, 4 & 8 OHM OPERATION
DUAL VOICE COIL
GOLD-PLATED SCREW TYPE TERMINALS
DUAL VOICE COIL COOLING SYSTEM: BUILT-IN BASKET AIR VENTILATION, FRONT VOICE COIL COOLING VENT SYSTEM
HEAVY STOCK NON-PRESSED COATED PAPER CONE WITH HEAVY DUTY JUMBO SURROUND
DUAL DAMPER
160oz. DOUBLE STACKED MAGNET!!
INDUSTRIAL BOLT CONSTRUCTION

AUDIOBAHN WOOFERS
AW-1251X
(2) 12 1400 WATTS (TOTAL)
NATURAL SOUND SUBWOOFERS
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTONS!
PAIR OF WOOFERS!

NEW FOR 2002
PYRAMID IMPERIAL 12290
INSANE 2400 WATTS TOTAL
SUBWOOFER PAIR
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTONS
YOU GET 2 OF THESE FOR $98.00! INSANE DEAL!
NEW 2002 MODEL WITH SUPER PHAT SURROUND
GOLDEN INJECTED POLYPROPYLENE CONE
WIDE NON-FATIGUING RUBBER SUSPENSION
RUBATEX GASKET
GOLDEN-PLATED STEEL BASKET WITH GOLD TERMINALS
GOLDEN-PLATED BACKPLATE WITH BUMPED AND VENTED STRUCTURE
2.5" HIGH TEMPERATURE KAPTON VOICE COIL (4-LAYER)
4 OHMS IMPEDANCE
60 Oz+ 60 Oz MAGNET STRUCTURE
2400 WATTS PEAK POWER FOR THE PAIR AND 1200 WATTS PEAK EACH SUBWOOFER.
IMPEDANCE = 4 OHMS
Fs (Hz) 27.6
Qms 6.5
Qes 0.63
Qts 0.57
SPL (dB) 85.8
Vas (cu ft) 2.652
Mounting Depth 6.10"
Overall Depth 6.69"
Mounting Diameter 11.02"
Overall Diameter 12.20"

AMERICAN PRO
15" All-Chrome Woofer: 800 Watts Max; 400 Watts RMS; 4 Ohm Impedance; Rubber Surround; Kaptan Voice Coil; Screw Style Terminals

COMPETITION READY SUBWOOFERS
TWO - 15" SUBWOOFERS PYRAMID PW1586
15" SUB WOOFER
1200 WATTS PEAK POWER EACH
GOLD PUSH TERMINALS
POLY CONCAVE DUST CAP
PYRAMID HYPER PRO SERIES FEATURES
HIGH PERFORMANCE PAPER CONE FOR FAST ATTACK
WIDE HEAVY FOAM SURROUND
RIGID POWDER COATED STAMPED STEEL BASKET
BUMPED AND VENTED POLE PIECE
HUGE 110 OZ MAGNET STRUCTURE
OVER SIZED 2.5" KAPTON VOICE COIL
4 OHM IMPEDANCE
SINGLE VOICE COIL
FS=36.8HZ
QMS=7.17,QES=.1.7,QTS=1.37
SPL=86
VAS=3.111
Mounting Depth: 6.06"

these are the amps i have in mind
PYLE
2 Channel 1400 Watt High Power
PLA1440 MOSFET Amplifier
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTON

Specifications:

- DUAL 5 LED METERS
- HIGH-LOW ELECTRONIC CROSSOVERS
- VARIABLE BASS BOOST & GAIN CONTROL
- REMOTE TURN ON/OFF
- MOSFET PWM POWER SUPPLY
- SOFT TURN-ON CIRCUIT
- HIGH & LOW LEVEL INPUTS
- HIGH LEVEL MOLEX INPUTS
- GOLD PLATED RCA INPUT JACKS
- POWER ON & PROTECTION LEDS
- S/N RATIO: 90DB
- FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 20HZ-30KHZ

AMERICAN PRO BASS MACHINE
2000 WATT MOSFET POWER
2-CH BRIDGEABLE POWER AMPLIFIER
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTON
FULL MOSFET POWER SUPPLY
2 OHM STABLE
2-CH BRIDGEABLE
24dB BUILT-IN CROSSOVER
MAX OUTPUT POWER 2000 WATTS
VARIABLE GAIN CONTROL
DUAL FAN COOLING SYSTEM
AWESOME REAL CHROME
VARIABLE LPF CROSSOVER (30Hz-300Hz)
LOW/HIGH LEVEL INPUT
TRI-SPEAKER HOOKUP
GOLD PLATED RCA AND TERMINALS
HUGE 100 AMP MAXI FUSE BUILT IN
OVERHEAT AND OVERLOAD PROTECTION
POWER/PROTECTION L.E.D. INDICATOR
FULL 2-YEAR WARRANTY
DIMENSIONS: 10"(W)x22"(L)x2.5"(H)

AMERICAN LEGACY
HIGH PERFORMANCE
2000 WATT 2-CH
MOSFET AMPLIFIER
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTON
TWO CHANNEL AMPLIFICATION
1000 WATTS x 2 OUTPUT
2000 WATTS x 1 BRIDGED OUTPUT
FULLY ADJUSTABLE ELECTRONIC CROSSOVER NETWORK
VARIABLE BASS BOOST (0-12dB @60Hz)
SOFT TURN ON/OFF CIRCUIT
2 OHM STEREO STABLE
BRIDGEABLE INTO 4 OHMS
MOSFET PWM POWER SUPPLY
HEAVY DUTY ALUMINUM ALLOY HEATSINK
DISCREAT WIRE CONNECTIONS
VARIABLE GAIN CONTROL
REMOTE TURN ON/OFF
HI/LO INPUTS
GOLD PLATED HIGH IMPEDANCE INPUT
HIGH LEVEL MOLEX OUTPUT
POWER ON LED INDICATOR
LED PROTECTION INDICATOR
S/N RATIO: >95dB
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 15-30kHZ

AMERICAN LEGACY
HIGH PERFORMANCE
2000 WATT 2-CH
MOSFET AMPLIFIER
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTON
TWO CHANNEL AMPLIFICATION
1000 WATTS x 2 OUTPUT
2000 WATTS x 1 BRIDGED OUTPUT
FULLY ADJUSTABLE ELECTRONIC CROSSOVER NETWORK
VARIABLE BASS BOOST (0-12dB @60Hz)
SOFT TURN ON/OFF CIRCUIT
2 OHM STEREO STABLE
BRIDGEABLE INTO 4 OHMS
MOSFET PWM POWER SUPPLY
HEAVY DUTY ALUMINUM ALLOY HEATSINK
DISCREAT WIRE CONNECTIONS
VARIABLE GAIN CONTROL
REMOTE TURN ON/OFF
HI/LO INPUTS
GOLD PLATED HIGH IMPEDANCE INPUT
HIGH LEVEL MOLEX OUTPUT
POWER ON LED INDICATOR
LED PROTECTION INDICATOR
S/N RATIO: >95dB
FREQUENCY RESPONSE: 15-30kHZ

NEW 2003 LEGACY SERIES 2 LINE!
2400 WATT 2-CH LEGACY AMP
BRAND NEW IN FACTORY SEALED CARTON
2 Channel Amplification
2 x 1200 Watts Output
1 x 2400 Watts Bridged Output
2400 Watts Total Output
Polished Chrome Finish w//Plexiglass Panel
Remote Control Bass Boost (0-+1808 @60Hz)
Fully Adjustable Electronic X-over Network
Soft Turn On//Off Circuit
2 Ohm Stereo Stable Bridgeable Into 4 Ohms
MOSFET PWM Power Supplies
Variable Gain Control
Hi//Low Level Inputs
Power On LED Indicator
LED Protection Indicator

if someone is bored and they wanna pick the best setup out of my selection feel free......

also should i be getting a bandpass box or a regular box???
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Old March-14th-2003, 11:40 AM   #2  
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IMHO, i woundl't get anything u listed. how much are you wanting to spend, and are you just wanting alot of bass, your are you wanting an entire system.
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budget is at $500 and want something with some thump to it. wanna be the man with all the power in the hood. my brother just got 2 15" rockfords with a 1600 watt amp.. want something to at least match him or pound him...
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ok next question, does the 500 bucks include wiring and box material???also do you just want SPL or do you want sq as well.
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spl or sq?????
yeah the $500 is for everything....
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Old March-14th-2003, 12:33 PM   #6  
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sound pressure level or sound quality, in other words do you want good tight sound bass, or you just want to be as loud as possible and sound like crap...even though most people don't know what good bass sounds like.
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buy 2 mtx 8000's off ebay...should be able to get a decent price. friend of mine got 2 for 100 a piece brand new in box. get the myx 6500d amp. thats all the power youll need. ive heard 15s that dont hit as hard as these things. but thats IMO. very decent bass....people will know your coming. i know when hes coming like at least a couple blocks away. when he get next to the house everything on the walls is shaking. just my 2 cents.


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Old March-14th-2003, 12:38 PM   #8  
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also, do you care about trunk space??
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Old March-14th-2003, 12:52 PM   #9  
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power acoustic **** get the singe 12 for 190 bucks. ikesound
goto jbl and get the 1200.1 amp for $275. the amp can run at 1ohm and keep the 1200 rms. goto wiring to get your wiring
wiring kit $30
this puts you arund 500 bucks w/shipping

PM blue ledz and tell him what ur runnind he will give you the box dementions, so total will run you about 520 or so, and you one 12 will out play your bros rockfords by alot. trust me, the **** is LOUD.
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dont really care about trunk space, can always use back seats... wanted a nice bass tone to it but everybody knowing where its coming from...

do you think this will sound good

http://app.infopia.com/Shop/Control/...sid/0/SFV/9505

these subs with lets say a 1600 watt amp in a bandpass box???? will it go boom boom very loud???

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nope far from it. when you look at power ratings, you have to look at rms power, not peak power, those subs have a 45 oz magnet and probably a rms of 300 watts. you never want to go over rms rating and never use a bandpass box. the **** has a 270 oz magnet with a 1200 watt rms and the jbl amp is 1200 rms. stay away from legacy, pyle, and any other brand you can buy at a pawn shop, mostly b/c they don't actually give the power they say. the **** requires a 2.4 cu box, but for it to sound good and really slam, you will have a probably a 6cu ft box. it will sound good and you could probably bend you trunk latch with it

if you wanted audiobahn subs,go hereaudiobahn sub

if you want even louder, get the 15 **** and the box WILL take up your entire trunk, but you will hit 150db with it, the 12 will hit around 145 or so. i can almost bet you haven't been in a car that has that kind of SPL. ***don't turn it up all the way and not have ear plugs in***
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well, if you're really skimping on the financial end of everything, go into circut city or best buy and ask if they have amp, box and sub deals, cause most likely, you'll be able to find some package deal that could save you 2 or 300 bucks. thats a REALLY low budget for sound, but if i'm right, best buy (at least the one near me) was running a deal on 2 12's, a box, and an rf 200s amp for like $350 something... or sometimes circut city has a deal on 2 bazooka 12's and amp for under 400 or around there. if you're looking to SLAM or POUND your brother out of 2 15's, i'd recommend 2 12's in your price range.. you'll never come close, but 12's should give you the combined area to get you up there. and i've boughten some of these cheap brands, just to check them out... ie... sony, pyle, lazard, pyramid, rockwood usa. etc. truely, to get bass that isn't muddy, you need a GOOD amp, you need decent subs AT LEAST. my buddy and i did a little test last year with a single 10 inch xplod sub and then a 15 inch xplod sub, and their 760 or 780 peak watt amp, i forget model numbers, but no matter how you cut it, sony was absolute ****, yeah, it did make the car shake, but the subs each sounded like ****, even with gains adjusted, low-pass cross over turned all the way down... it was a musical nightmare. i'm just slowly learning that you get what you pay for when it comes to audio, it's the god's honest truth, i've gone through 7 subs set ups (pioneers, sonys, mtx's, rockfords) 4 seperate amps (jbl, jensen, pioneer, sony), i'm on my 3rd head unit, and just FINALLY, i've gotten everything to where it should be. all in all, while my signature says $1200 dollars into my system, it's more like $2000 if you count the crap that i've destroyed, returned or just didn't like the quality and don't use any more. i honestly think your best bet would be:
2 12"inch alpine typeR's (http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...&o=m&a=0&cc=01)
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2 12"inch jbl gt 20's (http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...&o=m&a=0&cc=01)
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2 12"inch Polk Audio gnx12's (http://www.crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S...&o=m&a=0&cc=01)

and for an amp, like mentioned before, the JBL 1200.1 amp from Ike sound (http://www.ikesound.com/Prod_Details.asp?Prod_Id=209)

those subs are two-fer deals that are buy one get one or buy one, get the second at discounted price from crutchfield. i'm not taking into consideration wiring, box or shipping, but if you figure, you can go with a $30 dollar wiring kit, $20 or $30 for good rca's, you can build your own box for less than 50, so all in all, should come just under or a little over 500. running a single 12 will shake the hell out of your car with just that jbl amp, but even running 1200x1 @ 2ohms will give 2 subs the power that you need. no personal experience from *****, but i know they'd hold their own. take your pick, don't go too cheap, and keep researching, make sure you know what you're doing. looking for major BONE shaking bass, so to speak, without any reguard for quality or spl output is not the way to do it.. research, buy, document and learn... thats the only way to do it.

ps, if you're installing this yourself, learn how to do it right, it will save you the heart ache later
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Dude - you are seriously looking at all flea-market crapola. It'll sound like ****, and probably won't last.

You'd be surprised - if you stop looking at all the big numbers (watts max, etc.) and start looking at quality equipment, you can come in around your budget and have a very nice system.

A single 10", quality woofer in a proper box supplied with proper power will sound 1000% better, and probably be louder, than 4 15" ****-box speakers in a particleboard box powered by a "4000" watt amp that only REALLY pushes 50 watts.

You CAN do this for under $500. I would consider some of the subs already mentioned. Also, think about a pair of Infinity Kappa 100.3s - I have a pair ready to go in my car eventually - they take 275 watts each RMS, and I got mine for $75 each on eBay. Pair that up with a JBL 600.1 (should be about $250), put them in a GOOD box (NOT particleboard flea market crap) with about 1 cubic foot per sub, and you'll sound not only loud, but GOOD.

There are lots of options out there. Do some research before buying, and stop looking at "1000000 WATT!!!!" subs and amps. They lie - and if they are cheap, they are garbage.

To be safe, DON'T BUY ANYTHING WITHOUT POSTING HERE FIRST! There's nothing worse than buying a pair of subs or whatever, and an amp, then realizing that the subs can't be wired to get the most from the amp, and being at half-power all the time. We'll help you get the right stuff. Ask, then buy, aight? You're doing that already - keep it up!

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if you decide on SQ, got www.edesignaudio.com the k series are really good subs that aren't expensive.
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I have always been big on the buy one part at a time route is the budget is really limited like this.
No offense intended but our fellow sound heads are quite correct, the components you listed are just trash, and they would be stealing your money.
I saw an encougement to post here before you buy, and that is a great idea, the folks here are always the nicest folks around, and are willing to help new car audio lovers out.
I would suggest you might want to do a little reading up on car audio in general to help you understand your options, and make the best possible choices for your hard earned dollars.

http://www.installdr.com/
http://www.leecao.com/caraudio/index.html
http://www.caraudioheaven.com/

These are some pretty good starting places...

It sounds like bass is your desire, and some of the folks here are heavy into it, so I suspect you will get some good advice.

Good luck and stay in touch!
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