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Old August-9th-2003, 05:46 PM
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audio 6 by 9's

im trying to decide on what to do. i have 2 6 by 9's that i want to put in the trunk. should i get a 4 way amp and hook up the 2 back door speakers as well or just the two in the back. if anyone knows of some cheap amps let me know.
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Why not invest in some nice front speakers and a two channel amp to push them and use your head unit's amp to push the rear speakers?

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the 03' mp5's have a amp unit already in them for the front unit. i already have some 6 1/2's from my eagle talon and i was going to put them in the back along with the 6 by 9's. let me know what u think.
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I would gladly let you know what I think.....

if I could just figure out what you're saying.

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i had an eagle talon and i took out the 2 6 1/2's and the 6 by 9's. i want to put the 6's in the back doors and the 6 by 9's in the trunk. should i get a 4 way amp for them all, or just a small one for the back 2.
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Why do you want all of your sound coming from the back? You could put the 6 1/2's in the fronts and use acoustic baffles from crutchfield like I did (minor metal cutting) and put the 6x9s in the rear deck and put a 2 channel amp on the front and let your head unit power the rear speakers. That is what I would do in your case. Besides, you save money and get a decent 2 channel amp versus a 4 channel amp and skimp on sound quality (if you are on a budget).

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What the HELL do you want to put 6x9s in the TRUNK for?

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Originally posted by bloeser
im trying to decide on what to do. i have 2 6 by 9's that i want to put in the trunk. should i get a 4 way amp and hook up the 2 back door speakers as well or just the two in the back. if anyone knows of some cheap amps let me know.
THere is no good way to do that in a P5.

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the 03' mp5's have a amp unit already in them for the front unit. i already have some 6 1/2's from my eagle talon and i was going to put them in the back along with the 6 by 9's. let me know what u think.
Incorrect, the front speakers are played off the radio as are the rears in ALL proteges. MP3, MSP, Protege5, ect all have only the radio powing speakers.

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i had an eagle talon and i took out the 2 6 1/2's and the 6 by 9's. i want to put the 6's in the back doors and the 6 by 9's in the trunk. should i get a 4 way amp for them all, or just a small one for the back 2.
I would not to this at all! The 6x9's in the back are either goning to have to go in the cover panel which is far to flimsy or under it and you won't hear any music other then some low end that is far better left to a sub to handle.

You can reuse the 6.5" speakers in the back doors. I would then by matching speakers for the front doors and then add a 4 channel amp. Now that 4 channel amp gives you options:
1. It can be used to power al 4 speakers
2. You can bridged to power only the front speakers with twice the power.
3. Sell the 6x9s and buy a sub and box then use the 4 channel to power the fronts and bridge 2 channels to power the sub aswell.

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that sounds like a good idea. the reason why i wanted to do that was to get a little more bass in the trunk without a subwoofer and just to get some treble all around the car.
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Why aviod the sub, cost?
Even a small and inexpensive 10" sub will best 2 6x9s.
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Whew! This is confusing!

The front speakers are a 6"x8" fullrange speaker that is common to all Protege's. The ES and the Pro5 add a film tweeter to the mix and mount it in the front A-pillar. HOWEVER, unlike the sedan which has 6"x9" speakers in the rear deck, the Pro5 has 5 1/4" speaker in the rear door. Soundstage imaging and bass on the rear speakers is HORRIBLE. On my wife's Pro5 (a 2003.5 model) Mazda has added a spare tire mounted powered subwoofer similar to the one in the Acura RSX and Nissan Murano.

The best way that you are going to get some treble out of the car is to install a high quality 5 1/4" component set, and get the tweeter as high as you can. Sedans have the disitinct advantage of having the rear deck speakers at ear level, so highs are extra crisp. You don't get that in the Pro5 so you are going to have some extra work to do to make up for the design flaw.

If you do not have the spare tire mounted subwoofer, you will have to install some sort of subwoofer to get some bass in your car. 5 1/4's" just do not have the basket depth and the surface area to produce any good bass. I suggest going with a 10" in a small sealed box (So you don't lose cargo room)

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Originally posted by jaredspangler
Whew! This is confusing!

The front speakers are a 6"x8" fullrange speaker that is common to all Protege's. The ES and the Pro5 add a film tweeter to the mix and mount it in the front A-pillar. HOWEVER, unlike the sedan which has 6"x9" speakers in the rear deck, the Pro5 has 5 1/4" speaker in the rear door.
He knows but wanted to put them back there anyways.

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The best way that you are going to get some treble out of the car is to install a high quality 5 1/4" component set, and get the tweeter as high as you can. Sedans have the disitinct advantage of having the rear deck speakers at ear level, so highs are extra crisp.
Actualy I would do a 6.5" component instead in the front. The rear speakers in the sedan just make imaging a bitch as they have to be tuned WAY down to stop pulling the stage back. I know, I have both versions of the car.

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If you do not have the spare tire mounted subwoofer, you will have to install some sort of subwoofer to get some bass in your car. 5 1/4's" just do not have the basket depth and the surface area to produce any good bass.
Sorry, but I can't resist this one!
Ok now I am confuesed, you said a 5.25" is to small to put out bass yet you seem happy with the factory spare tire sub?
Sit down for this one, the factory sub IS actualy a 5.25" speaker!!!!
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1. I am not happy with the spare tire speaker, but it is my wife's car. The way she drives, I am NOT putting any money into it!!

2. Why would he do a 6 1/2" component set up front? The soundstage is already horribly skewed to the front of the vehicle anyways. You can't even hear the rear speakers at all. THAT WON'T FIX HIS PROBLEM. LISTEN TO WHAT HE IS SAYING - He wants treble all the way AROUND the car. Installing a front component set will not do that. He wants to bring treble up in the rear. Increasing the front isn't what he wants. And I also have both versions of the vehicle - Check my signature

3. The sub is actually a 4". I measured it, and then looked at Mazda's information on the sub.

1st MP3 in NH, I just realized something tht makes this a futile discussion. Does he have a Pro5 or a sedan? He doesn't make it real clear. A sedan does not have speakers in the rear doors. Does he want to take the 6x9's into the trunk and put the 5 1/4 into the doors?

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1. I am not happy with the spare tire speaker, but it is my wife's car. The way she drives, I am NOT putting any money into it!!
Thatta Boy!

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2. Why would he do a 6 1/2" component set up front? The soundstage is already horribly skewed to the front of the vehicle anyways. You can't even hear the rear speakers at all. THAT WON'T FIX HIS PROBLEM. LISTEN TO WHAT HE IS SAYING - He wants treble all the way AROUND the car. Installing a front component set will not do that. He wants to bring treble up in the rear. Increasing the front isn't what he wants. And I also have both versions of the vehicle - Check my signature
Adding front components and a decent amp will GREATLY help the car. Sound for the back of the car is Anti-image. Frontt componets will give you all the highs you need. Even my JL audio VR650csi with tiny silk tweeters I mounted down low have more then enogh highs on there own. The image is bad in the front or a lack of a good speaker setup, adding rear speakers that will be louder only worsen that. Even int my p5, by fading 1 to the front and balancing 1-2 to the right the image is much better. There are no amps in it right now.

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3. The sub is actually a 4". I measured it, and then looked at Mazda's information on the sub.
Did you measure the actual speaker or the moutning ring aswell?
Speaker size is typicaly smaller then listed as it includes some of the mounting ring often.


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1st MP3 in NH, I just realized something tht makes this a futile discussion. Does he have a Pro5 or a sedan? He doesn't make it real clear. A sedan does not have speakers in the rear doors. Does he want to take the 6x9's into the trunk and put the 5 1/4 into the doors?
He mentioned having a 2003 P5.
He wanted to put the 6x9's in the trunk and his 6.5" in the rear doors.
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I guess that from an audiophile standpoint, you want all of your highs to come from the front of a car, but I personally don't like it. I want to be enveloped in sound, with a slight skew toward the front of course. I have my Premier biased a 1/5 of the way toward the front speakers in my ES and I like it that way. I have no amp either. I have the speakers running off to the MOSFET chip in the deck, with the sub powering the DVC 10"

There is no mounting ring in the sub, it is all molded in. It is a one piece plastic item. The Cone with the surround measure less than 4 inches.

Thanks for clearing up his vehicle. I could not find where he said that. I got confused since technically the P5 has no trunk. Thanks 1st MP3 in NH.
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