View Poll Results: Where should the next Protege Picnic be held?
Virginia (traditionally, it has been there the last 3 or 4 yrs to my knowledge)
16
53.33%
New Jersey
9
30.00%
Doesn't matter to me. I'm going.
5
16.67%
Voters: 30. You may not vote on this poll
VA or NJ? That is the Question.
February-15th-2003, 12:27 PM
#31
Reflector Collector
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Irvington, NJ
Posts: 207
Its not that I am wrong again .. its that I am telling the truth and its a problem for you to see that.
You also continue to run to your friends and complain to them that they are getting "blasted on the forums".... hes a big boy .. let him deal with it himself ... he doesnt need you to be his mommy and fight his issues for him -- if he even cares ... dont turn it into one by posting messages to him about it ... if its that much of a problem for you CALL HIM .. dont tell him to call you.
Old would be the way you carry yourself as a supposed LEADER.
Pe@ce
You also continue to run to your friends and complain to them that they are getting "blasted on the forums".... hes a big boy .. let him deal with it himself ... he doesnt need you to be his mommy and fight his issues for him -- if he even cares ... dont turn it into one by posting messages to him about it ... if its that much of a problem for you CALL HIM .. dont tell him to call you.
Old would be the way you carry yourself as a supposed LEADER.
Pe@ce
Last edited by Protege5Gurly; February-15th-2003 at 12:31 PM.
February-15th-2003, 12:39 PM
#32
AMSOIL Dealer
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: NJ USA
Posts: 217
BLAH BLA H BAHA
Originally posted by Protege5Gurly
Its not that I am wrong again .. its that I am telling the truth and its a problem for you to see that.
Old would be the way you carry yourself as a supposed LEADER.
Pe@ce
Its not that I am wrong again .. its that I am telling the truth and its a problem for you to see that.
Old would be the way you carry yourself as a supposed LEADER.
Pe@ce
Meets are one of the reasons that Team Mazda was formed. Plus that club is going in a different direction. And again Wil and I were on two different clubs at that time, so both local clubs are now , Team Mazda.
The NE chapter is different from that.
Rules , meets when you were in the club it was just getting put together.
Again you persist to keep going when I said this was resolved. You have not changed nor ever will.
One I must say people seem very please were the club is now, and what is coming down the pipe. I have my down falls and will admit this, but people do not come off the way they are in person . But you do in this post.
Mods funny that is one of the reasons you got blasted from the club, you have put people down who due not agree with you view and you still do.
You need to get another hobby. Funny the club is still around and still growing.
I must have some kind of leadership qualities. And have some Ideas on how to run it.
February-15th-2003, 12:43 PM
#33
Reflector Collector
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Irvington, NJ
Posts: 207
"Mods funny that is one of the reasons you got blasted from the club, you have put people down who due not agree with you view and you still do."
Why can you STILL not clarify that statement? I offered help in the club ... you decided not to listen. You wanted sponsors from companies like Meguiars... i offered to help since I have met, and know, the man in charge at Meguiars -- CRAIG LIEBERMAN -- Meguiars does not look for a bunch of Protege's running around lookin for free crap. Look at the cars they sponsor already -- when you reach that level they might actually consider you. And yes, the whole club need to be at that level -- its even in their sponsorship documents.
Your 2 groups can be whatever they want ... thats in your hands, but for awhile it seemed like the 2 didnt have a clue as to what was really going on.
You havent run anything... all you have done is have people sign up to have their name on a website. When the club grows, has regular meets, and actually progresses, I will congratulate you..
And again .. if people have issues with me, let them confront me about it. Dont just assume everyone has issues -- so far it seems like only you do.... but ill give that to you as well... you have been man enough to basically say it.
until then ... let it go ... i am
Pe@ce
Why can you STILL not clarify that statement? I offered help in the club ... you decided not to listen. You wanted sponsors from companies like Meguiars... i offered to help since I have met, and know, the man in charge at Meguiars -- CRAIG LIEBERMAN -- Meguiars does not look for a bunch of Protege's running around lookin for free crap. Look at the cars they sponsor already -- when you reach that level they might actually consider you. And yes, the whole club need to be at that level -- its even in their sponsorship documents.
Your 2 groups can be whatever they want ... thats in your hands, but for awhile it seemed like the 2 didnt have a clue as to what was really going on.
You havent run anything... all you have done is have people sign up to have their name on a website. When the club grows, has regular meets, and actually progresses, I will congratulate you..
And again .. if people have issues with me, let them confront me about it. Dont just assume everyone has issues -- so far it seems like only you do.... but ill give that to you as well... you have been man enough to basically say it.
until then ... let it go ... i am
Pe@ce
Last edited by Protege5Gurly; February-15th-2003 at 12:47 PM.
February-15th-2003, 12:54 PM
#35
Reflector Collector
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Irvington, NJ
Posts: 207
After everyone reads all of the BS thats been going on ... they can now read this... and hopefully read it in the way it was meant to be read...
If the groups had been more receptive of my ideas and offerings when I had made them (I had even made some the first time we met) things might be better off between us all now. Because of the way I was treated and had my ideas and criticisms(although constructive) shot down I chose to leave on bad terms with basically 2 (iirc there were only about 5 members at that time) members of the group.
If I could go back and change that ... would I ... maybe ... depends on the way people would act towards me again .. and this time actually listen to what I have to say.
I have been in the car club/show scene for about 4 years now ... I have the experience, knowledge, and connections to help you out ... all you had to do was listen.
Pe@ce
If the groups had been more receptive of my ideas and offerings when I had made them (I had even made some the first time we met) things might be better off between us all now. Because of the way I was treated and had my ideas and criticisms(although constructive) shot down I chose to leave on bad terms with basically 2 (iirc there were only about 5 members at that time) members of the group.
If I could go back and change that ... would I ... maybe ... depends on the way people would act towards me again .. and this time actually listen to what I have to say.
I have been in the car club/show scene for about 4 years now ... I have the experience, knowledge, and connections to help you out ... all you had to do was listen.
Pe@ce
Last edited by Protege5Gurly; February-15th-2003 at 12:56 PM.
February-15th-2003, 01:08 PM
#36
Protege Progasm
Thread Starter
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: MD
Posts: 2,456
Re: NAPPS OR NEPPS
Originally posted by ZG77_OzZ
If you want to host redrims then you, organize it and you make the calls , get the place for it, then let everybody know ok. If not please give it a rest, damn it going to be held you think you would be happy.
If you want to host redrims then you, organize it and you make the calls , get the place for it, then let everybody know ok. If not please give it a rest, damn it going to be held you think you would be happy.
Your the one putting a pipe up your *** cause you here that some ppl don't want to pay tolls. I put the poll up to see what most ppl wanted as requested by Ambient. I really don't give a **** where it is. All I said is that I rather have it in NJ at that Mazda Dealership that Adam told me about and that I'll be glad to help.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU POST.
February-15th-2003, 01:22 PM
#37
AMSOIL Dealer
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: NJ USA
Posts: 217
Re: Re: NAPPS OR NEPPS
Originally posted by redrims
WTF are you talking about? I said I wanted to HELP whoever is doing it. Did you even read ? I also said that I WANTED it in New Jersey.
Your the one putting a pipe up your *** cause you here that some ppl don't want to pay tolls. I put the poll up to see what most ppl wanted as requested by Ambient. I really don't give a **** where it is. All I said is that I rather have it in NJ at that Mazda Dealership that Adam told me about and that I'll be glad to help.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU POST.
WTF are you talking about? I said I wanted to HELP whoever is doing it. Did you even read ? I also said that I WANTED it in New Jersey.
Your the one putting a pipe up your *** cause you here that some ppl don't want to pay tolls. I put the poll up to see what most ppl wanted as requested by Ambient. I really don't give a **** where it is. All I said is that I rather have it in NJ at that Mazda Dealership that Adam told me about and that I'll be glad to help.
PLEASE READ CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU POST.
February-15th-2003, 03:22 PM
#41
Fire Trucks Rock
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Philly (Yo)
Posts: 302
Defensive... Ron, you are such a butthole!@
Originally posted by Protege5Gurly
First off, I left the NEPNO on my own terms due to poor quality in the group. I wanted to have a meet and noone -- including YOU was willing. I offered suggestions from prior meets and car club that worked well... everyone was unwilling to change their ways of failing. I guess constructive criticism doesnt work. Its your way or no way ... I was never asked to leave and you even said you were sorry to see me go.
There were posts from Will about the groups becoming one ... your response .. "Thats news to me" ... maybe the 2 of you should have discussed that earlier...
Fine... you dont have time to update the site ... ill give you that one.
Mod List -- my current mod list is 100% accurate ... you can see that first hand at the shows this year. When was the last time you actually saw my car? Maybe this is where all the jealousy comes into play?
Your latest posts show the name change ... so now MAPP is no more with your group ... problem solved ... take it out of the DC section now and put this drama into the NE section where it apparently belongs.
Chroma/Chameleon/Komelon ... all the same crap just under different names
Who doesnt like me in the club? They(the 2 people) didnt like me since I was going against you - someone who they knew longer. I only met 2 of you. They can think what they want. Im not here to impress anyone or have them love me. Im here to better my car and win at shows -- my goals are already being accomplished.
Not liking your group still doesnt mean I shouldnt have a say in MAPP or whatever you wish to call it ... MAPP is more of a Protege Club thing... not an NE thing.
Please dont assume that I am actually jealous of what you have built. That is far from the truth.
The day you first met me was at an Etown car show -- so NO you were not the judge... upon talking with me, you proceeded to put your hands all over the car while looking at it and even got in the driver seat. I even had to follow behind you to wipe away the greasy finger prints left behind.
I havent spoken a single lie yet, just reinforcing what has been said before.
How should I talk when dealing with distace for meets? Ive been to CT and MD for meets, and several other states for car shows. I have no problem driving -- unlike several other people -- Will included -- and I only brought up his name for the commments he made about people complaining and him in return saying he is pretty much unwilling to travel.
I have no issues with anyone on this board -- just with the things they say and the actions they take.
If you and Will have problems ... so be it ... and when others meet me, they can make the call themselves as to if they will like me or not.
BTW .. check my posts against yours... there are far less gramatical errors on my part. Plus, I have far more coherant sentences.
Its over .. .drop it ... go back to NE and start your picnic.
First off, I left the NEPNO on my own terms due to poor quality in the group. I wanted to have a meet and noone -- including YOU was willing. I offered suggestions from prior meets and car club that worked well... everyone was unwilling to change their ways of failing. I guess constructive criticism doesnt work. Its your way or no way ... I was never asked to leave and you even said you were sorry to see me go.
There were posts from Will about the groups becoming one ... your response .. "Thats news to me" ... maybe the 2 of you should have discussed that earlier...
Fine... you dont have time to update the site ... ill give you that one.
Mod List -- my current mod list is 100% accurate ... you can see that first hand at the shows this year. When was the last time you actually saw my car? Maybe this is where all the jealousy comes into play?
Your latest posts show the name change ... so now MAPP is no more with your group ... problem solved ... take it out of the DC section now and put this drama into the NE section where it apparently belongs.
Chroma/Chameleon/Komelon ... all the same crap just under different names
Who doesnt like me in the club? They(the 2 people) didnt like me since I was going against you - someone who they knew longer. I only met 2 of you. They can think what they want. Im not here to impress anyone or have them love me. Im here to better my car and win at shows -- my goals are already being accomplished.
Not liking your group still doesnt mean I shouldnt have a say in MAPP or whatever you wish to call it ... MAPP is more of a Protege Club thing... not an NE thing.
Please dont assume that I am actually jealous of what you have built. That is far from the truth.
The day you first met me was at an Etown car show -- so NO you were not the judge... upon talking with me, you proceeded to put your hands all over the car while looking at it and even got in the driver seat. I even had to follow behind you to wipe away the greasy finger prints left behind.
I havent spoken a single lie yet, just reinforcing what has been said before.
How should I talk when dealing with distace for meets? Ive been to CT and MD for meets, and several other states for car shows. I have no problem driving -- unlike several other people -- Will included -- and I only brought up his name for the commments he made about people complaining and him in return saying he is pretty much unwilling to travel.
I have no issues with anyone on this board -- just with the things they say and the actions they take.
If you and Will have problems ... so be it ... and when others meet me, they can make the call themselves as to if they will like me or not.
BTW .. check my posts against yours... there are far less gramatical errors on my part. Plus, I have far more coherant sentences.
Its over .. .drop it ... go back to NE and start your picnic.
I know your part of Rons group but ... we all let it go ... why cant you?
February-15th-2003, 04:24 PM
#43
AMSOIL Dealer
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: NJ USA
Posts: 217
Originally posted by Ambient
Agreed, I believe my IQ has dropped because of this.
Agreed, I believe my IQ has dropped because of this.
I have to agree with Ambient on this one.
February-15th-2003, 06:36 PM
#44
Enter the Protege!
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Dover, Delaware
Posts: 266
I am kinda just throw my ten cents in here. I am one of the ones who don't really care where it is. I drove from Delaware last year and paid all the tolls and gas cause I wanted to go. Now it looks like some want it in VA and others want it in NJ. And some of us just don't care. Well I know this will get some laughs but hey its an idea but why not in between here in Delaware. We have some great State parks and I might even be able to get the local Mazda dealerships to be there too. It would require travel on most but it would be equal distance for most. Good thing about Delaware is we are about 2 hrs from everyone. I know this probably will get some laughs but I just want to go to another meet and I don't really care what silly name we give it or where it is. Lets not forget the reason. I would be more then willing to get it all setup here in Delaware with help from people that did this before. I can do all the leg work here and get it all set.
