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Bruce95fmla March-27th-2002 04:25 PM


Originally posted by craigrrrp
hmmmm very interesting...i wonder how much you can control it
I am not sure to be honest, I do remeber I read through the whole site , lol cause when my car was lowered , wich is the pic in my sig , with the WR coils , I actually wanted to give my car more camber control ,..
Bruce

craigrrrp March-27th-2002 04:33 PM


Originally posted by PseudoRealityX


On a protege it does. Strut type suspensions DO NOT get negitive camber when they compress. In fact, after lowering my car, i could only GET about a half degree.

chdesign...its a toe problem....do it yourself and dont waste the money.

If it were camber and its as bad as you say it is, then your wheels would be WAY out of place, and you'd notice it.

so you are telling me that if i drop my car say 2-3 inches i will not need to get a camber kit at all even latter on down the road?

craigrrrp March-27th-2002 04:40 PM

ok ok i do have a flying m on the front of my car...

Bruce95fmla March-27th-2002 06:11 PM

like I said save your money ,,, Jesse is right , I found this out like I said ,, as a matter of fact here ,, look at this pic and tell me how much camber you see ,, take in mine look for my ttl bars under the car ,, hehe where did they go...


Bruce

Bruce95fmla March-27th-2002 06:15 PM


Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
Bruce....that toothpick you call a rear sway bar has got to go.
you are so right lol ,, it is in the plans
Bruce

chdesign March-27th-2002 08:05 PM

OK thanks for the info guys. I'm plannign on getting another alignment done after the new tires are on anyways i have hook ups and htey will do it for me for liek 20 bucks.:D

craigrrrp March-27th-2002 08:06 PM

:bt:

btaira March-28th-2002 01:16 PM

Jesse, please post instructions on how we can adjust toe ourselves. I couldn't agree with you more, "free" is always the best kind of alignment!!! Incidentally, I also have a 92 LX.

benf000 March-28th-2002 02:40 PM

so bruce, when you had your car 3.2 down, could you bring anyone with you? im sure the setup isn't that much different for the 3rd gen and i am thinking about a 2 inch drop on 17's, but i want to still be able to use my first REAL 4 door car as a 4 door car (meaning bring passengers). what were your experiences?

ben

Bruce95fmla March-28th-2002 07:09 PM

oh man do I have stories
 
Well being as you asked lmao ......

1 ) I once carried a friend and his girl friend to a car show out in jersey . We were heading out there leaving new york and I sware every bump that I hit on the cross bronx expwy , I would see her head bopping up and down in my rear view mirror,,.. It was funny as hell .. when I hit a big bump my boy would go flying toward the window or the dash , lol ... me i always sat still cause I was used to it and always braced myself, by time we got on the NJ turnpike , the car was cruising pretty smooth ,. not much bumping around , wich told me that these were coils for places like florida .

But overall , most times when I carried people in the back they would bounce all over the place , the back springs were so stiff however that when people sat in the back , it would not dip ,.. at all ,... that is how stiff this suspension was ...

anyway

2) I started dating (hitting) this Jamaican girl ,, a hook up thing ,, anyway when we would go out , cause I would go to Queens to pick her up , and I was not to familiar with out there, . So I would go get her and be heading to the Queens theater and I was booking ,, maybe like 80 or so , and I would hit a bump and believe me she went about 2 inches out her seat, hahahha ,, man that was funny as hell ,, but then she started hitting , me ,, I mean she would punch me and shit , and this is when i am driving ,, and another time she just started slapping me cause she was sleaping and then I hit a bump and it woke her ass up ....
One time I was driving and she was sleaping , you know my morning movements, haha just wrecked something ,, anyway ,, she was sleaping , I hit a bump and she got pissed, and made a remark or ,," I hate this car" ,,, suddenly me and the protege felt like putting this bitch out .... imagine the nerve , insult me hit me , but you insult my baby (the protege) ....
na nana

2) When I used to take some trips to the south bronx, wich has some pretty rough roads, there was just to much bouncing around . granted the car looked so damn nice and I new that i would miss it ,, peoples comments of how nice the car looked so low, I just could not bare with the suspension , I felt like it would be me or it .. anyway you know the choice ....

3) here is another story , I will try to make this one short,
one night me and my friends went to the club in manhattan ,, (3
2001 Accords. well after partying with some HOes ,,, we left , I had like 3 Coronas W/lemon ofcourse, and then left , As I get to my car , I feal this pain in my pelvis , then we get to the light and I realize that I have to pea ,, ohh man ,,,, so ok cool ,, now i am at the light and I could sware that this is taking 4 years for this light to change,.. anyway it does , I bounce and head on to the FDR ( a tight windy highway that takes you from manhattan to the bronx) ... anyway every bump that I hit on the way to this damn highway presses the seatbelt more and more on my pelvis making me want to pea just that much more ,.. so we get on the highway and what not ,,, get on the way and these guys are like driving like they just got their license , so I know have to frigin go like hell , and I realize that there is a gas station after the jackson ave brdge... so I am cruising for a minute and then I am like f it ,, and I floor it and I am gone , lol ,, then i see all of the accords creaping up (take in mind this is a windy road ,3 lanes ...) man I hit a turn and then another , and at times I would hit a bump and the damn car would jump in the air(literaly) and then just wooop turn , anyway the car felt like it was on rails ,, to be honest a mp3 could not keep up with me that night ... when I got to the station , the guys pull up like 10 seconds later and they are like yo ,, what the hell is wrong with you lol ,,, then my other friend pulls up and he is like yo ,, your car was like a frigin go kart on the FDR ,, they said that is the first time I seen a go cart on the FDR ,,, they were saying how there tires were squealing and what not to go around a corner , and I was just cutting them and changing lanes like nothing , hahahah
that was a fun night , but I hate when I have to pea like that .....
but you get the idea of how the springs are
Bruce S
jspec familia

carguycw March-30th-2002 04:05 PM

I'm a litle late to jump in, but here goes...

It's a toe problem. Toe-out will kill the inside edge of your tires a LOT faster than camber. Given the rapid rate of wear, I think it HAS to be toe. Enough camber to cause this problem would mean broken suspension parts, not just a little lowering.

FWIW,

chdesign March-30th-2002 06:03 PM

Jesse I argee free is better than some but I would rather pay 20 bucks and get allt he readouts and get it exact as I can instead of eyeballing it. I got it done today and it does steer better. I had it aligned once but then realized that when I installed my springs I rotated the front right strut mount 180 degrees and i had to rotate it back around after they aligned it so it knocked my toe-in and camber out.

Bruce95fmla March-31st-2002 03:08 PM

ohh yeah ,,, I remeber those, man that was hilarious
Last year at the Hot import nights show, me and Wil and Oliver and a few other protege guys were there, I took Wil with me to the restaurant and we went a little to fast over the train tracks , and all you see if Wil flying out of his seat ,,f rigin hilarious ,,, and then he goes on about how if his car road like that he would kill himself and bla bla bla , haha ......
that was a good meet man ,,,
hey Wil see ya at Carlisle man
bruce

Makaveli April-2nd-2002 04:12 AM

Oh man, those stories were funny Bruce :laugh:

flip703 April-4th-2002 12:14 PM

Tsk Tsk Tsk.. dont ya just hate it when they align it bad. Had the same problem and all 4 wheels were f'd up.


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