Extreme Inner Tire Wear
 

Hey everyone I need some help. I have the Racing Beat springs on my car and had it aligned 2 days afterward. I am now experiencing extreme inner tire wear on my Yoko AVSi's the inside of the tire is gone and the outsid estill has 75% tread on it. Any camber correction out there or any solutions? I can't go through tires like this I don't have that kind of cash flow. I'm getting a new set soon as this set will last maybe another week. Any suggestions I'm stumped :dunno:

when you let go of the steering wheel ...........does the car go straight or to the side ? and is the wear on both tires or just one ?

is it the front pasenger side?...the reason im asking is that my old civic would blow a tire out every month to two months because i had it dropped 3" and when i would turn it would rub my through my tire

Nope goes straight and it is on both sides consistantly. My drop is only .8" so i woudlnt' think it woudl affect my camber as much as it has....Anyone know where to get the Sprint camber kit?

what size rims do you have? is it only on the front?

Stock 15" rims and yes only the front seems to be doing it.

well if you are still rolling on 15s then its either a bad allignment or you will need a camber kit for the car....if im not mistaken they should run you around 100 -120 a piece...try taking it back to the place that did your allignment and tell them they did a piss poor job on alligning your car..who knows maybe they will do it again for you this time....does the place that did it usually handle dropped cars?...if the answer is no then call around and see if you cant find a place that is expierianced with it..

take it back to the company , they messed up your alignment ,, oh wait maybe when they intalled your shocks they did not mount them back in the way they came out ,. Also so you know because your car has 4 bolts on the front struts , changing the position of these bolts can change the camber of the wheals . So you may have to move them around again to change the camber ... I would suggest that you jack the car up , and then unbolt the 4 bolts on the top and don't touch the middle nut , as this holds the spring in place... anyway pull these bolts and then rotate the mount (only thing I can't remeber wich way reduces camber and increases , so if anyone on here rembers then please post ..) either 90* to the left or 90*(degrees) to the right . try these settings and see if the wear goes away ... If you have a set of beater tires you can use to test the car with then use them

I hope this helps....
There is also a website out there that explains about the camber setting of the 4 hole mount shocks , that are in some cars ,, if you can find that site it will help explain a lot ,,, I think it was a mx-3 site though ... do a search on the egroups , protegetech egroups , that is where the combo took place

thank you for your time
Bruce S

you don't need a camber kit when you lower a pro , from 1" to 3" ... I had my pro slammed almost 3.2" and I never had a camber problem at all ...
Bruce S

Thanks for the tip I will try it. I installed the springs myself and made sure to reinstall everything right. I think the place that did it just did a horrible job of alignment. I'm getting my new tires this weekend so we will see what they say.

what the hell are you talking about?...

bruce
just because you dont need a camber kit (for now)does not meen that somebody else does not!.everybodys installations are different...unless there is some new fangled super springs out there that i dont know about yet!

yeah but notice I said had , I had that set up for one whole summer and put on over 1000 miles .. not tire wear .. anyway ..our camber on 2nd gens don't change much , but for the 3rd gen you can control the camber and I believe caster(but not sure) by the rotating of the strut mount in the front ..
Bruce

hmmmm very interesting...i wonder how much you can control it

in addition , I had coil overs ,, still no probs , lowering your pro , from .5" to almost 3" you should really have no problem , most alignment computers will show ya that , mainly cause with our cars and the use of struts, we don't have much adjustment , the 3rd gen (for the 4th time) has the ability like the 1st gen protege to use the upper mounts to manipulate the setting... know i will look and see if I find the link to that site ..
Bruce

I am not sure to be honest, I do remeber I read through the whole site , lol cause when my car was lowered , wich is the pic in my sig , with the WR coils , I actually wanted to give my car more camber control ,..
Bruce

so you are telling me that if i drop my car say 2-3 inches i will not need to get a camber kit at all even latter on down the road?

ok ok i do have a flying m on the front of my car...

like I said save your money ,,, Jesse is right , I found this out like I said ,, as a matter of fact here ,, look at this pic and tell me how much camber you see ,, take in mine look for my ttl bars under the car ,, hehe where did they go...


Bruce

you are so right lol ,, it is in the plans
Bruce

OK thanks for the info guys. I'm plannign on getting another alignment done after the new tires are on anyways i have hook ups and htey will do it for me for liek 20 bucks.:D

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Jesse, please post instructions on how we can adjust toe ourselves. I couldn't agree with you more, "free" is always the best kind of alignment!!! Incidentally, I also have a 92 LX.

so bruce, when you had your car 3.2 down, could you bring anyone with you? im sure the setup isn't that much different for the 3rd gen and i am thinking about a 2 inch drop on 17's, but i want to still be able to use my first REAL 4 door car as a 4 door car (meaning bring passengers). what were your experiences?

ben

oh man do I have stories
 

Well being as you asked lmao ......

1 ) I once carried a friend and his girl friend to a car show out in jersey . We were heading out there leaving new york and I sware every bump that I hit on the cross bronx expwy , I would see her head bopping up and down in my rear view mirror,,.. It was funny as hell .. when I hit a big bump my boy would go flying toward the window or the dash , lol ... me i always sat still cause I was used to it and always braced myself, by time we got on the NJ turnpike , the car was cruising pretty smooth ,. not much bumping around , wich told me that these were coils for places like florida .

But overall , most times when I carried people in the back they would bounce all over the place , the back springs were so stiff however that when people sat in the back , it would not dip ,.. at all ,... that is how stiff this suspension was ...

anyway

2) I started dating (hitting) this Jamaican girl ,, a hook up thing ,, anyway when we would go out , cause I would go to Queens to pick her up , and I was not to familiar with out there, . So I would go get her and be heading to the Queens theater and I was booking ,, maybe like 80 or so , and I would hit a bump and believe me she went about 2 inches out her seat, hahahha ,, man that was funny as hell ,, but then she started hitting , me ,, I mean she would punch me and shit , and this is when i am driving ,, and another time she just started slapping me cause she was sleaping and then I hit a bump and it woke her ass up ....
One time I was driving and she was sleaping , you know my morning movements, haha just wrecked something ,, anyway ,, she was sleaping , I hit a bump and she got pissed, and made a remark or ,," I hate this car" ,,, suddenly me and the protege felt like putting this bitch out .... imagine the nerve , insult me hit me , but you insult my baby (the protege) ....
na nana

2) When I used to take some trips to the south bronx, wich has some pretty rough roads, there was just to much bouncing around . granted the car looked so damn nice and I new that i would miss it ,, peoples comments of how nice the car looked so low, I just could not bare with the suspension , I felt like it would be me or it .. anyway you know the choice ....

3) here is another story , I will try to make this one short,
one night me and my friends went to the club in manhattan ,, (3
2001 Accords. well after partying with some HOes ,,, we left , I had like 3 Coronas W/lemon ofcourse, and then left , As I get to my car , I feal this pain in my pelvis , then we get to the light and I realize that I have to pea ,, ohh man ,,,, so ok cool ,, now i am at the light and I could sware that this is taking 4 years for this light to change,.. anyway it does , I bounce and head on to the FDR ( a tight windy highway that takes you from manhattan to the bronx) ... anyway every bump that I hit on the way to this damn highway presses the seatbelt more and more on my pelvis making me want to pea just that much more ,.. so we get on the highway and what not ,,, get on the way and these guys are like driving like they just got their license , so I know have to frigin go like hell , and I realize that there is a gas station after the jackson ave brdge... so I am cruising for a minute and then I am like f it ,, and I floor it and I am gone , lol ,, then i see all of the accords creaping up (take in mind this is a windy road ,3 lanes ...) man I hit a turn and then another , and at times I would hit a bump and the damn car would jump in the air(literaly) and then just wooop turn , anyway the car felt like it was on rails ,, to be honest a mp3 could not keep up with me that night ... when I got to the station , the guys pull up like 10 seconds later and they are like yo ,, what the hell is wrong with you lol ,,, then my other friend pulls up and he is like yo ,, your car was like a frigin go kart on the FDR ,, they said that is the first time I seen a go cart on the FDR ,,, they were saying how there tires were squealing and what not to go around a corner , and I was just cutting them and changing lanes like nothing , hahahah
that was a fun night , but I hate when I have to pea like that .....
but you get the idea of how the springs are
Bruce S
jspec familia

I'm a litle late to jump in, but here goes...

It's a toe problem. Toe-out will kill the inside edge of your tires a LOT faster than camber. Given the rapid rate of wear, I think it HAS to be toe. Enough camber to cause this problem would mean broken suspension parts, not just a little lowering.

FWIW,

Jesse I argee free is better than some but I would rather pay 20 bucks and get allt he readouts and get it exact as I can instead of eyeballing it. I got it done today and it does steer better. I had it aligned once but then realized that when I installed my springs I rotated the front right strut mount 180 degrees and i had to rotate it back around after they aligned it so it knocked my toe-in and camber out.

ohh yeah ,,, I remeber those, man that was hilarious
Last year at the Hot import nights show, me and Wil and Oliver and a few other protege guys were there, I took Wil with me to the restaurant and we went a little to fast over the train tracks , and all you see if Wil flying out of his seat ,,f rigin hilarious ,,, and then he goes on about how if his car road like that he would kill himself and bla bla bla , haha ......
that was a good meet man ,,,
hey Wil see ya at Carlisle man
bruce

Oh man, those stories were funny Bruce :laugh:

Tsk Tsk Tsk.. dont ya just hate it when they align it bad. Had the same problem and all 4 wheels were f'd up.