yea i had a set of the hawks before i got the big brakes and the brakes dust drove me crazy along witht he squeaking

 

Hi guys!

My two cents:

There are two ways to increase braking efficiency-Change the rotor size or change the pad compound. That is really about it. Slots, dimples and holes are bad news in a stock size rotor as they do not disapate the heat more quickly, rather they reduce the mass of the heat sink and end up warping very quickly. Really, on a stock size rotor they are eye candy.

I like the hawks-run them myself. I started out with the EBC's and really didn't have a good experience with them. Loud and very dusty. True, the hawks are still squeaky when cold, but if you want higher friction you pretty much have to live with it.

With the best,

 

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Wes.

I do agree that larger rotors are best but the drilling on my stock-sized rotors certainly help cool them off faster. I have felt stock rotors doing brake jobs and minutes later they are still scalding but seconds after stopping my car I can touch and hold the rotors with no problems. Anything you do to pull heat out of the rotor will help it.

 

p.s. I guess I could get out my laser thermometer and do some comparitive tests.

 

In my experience I have to agree with Wes. Most rotors that are drilled tend to warp or crack. Slotted if you must have something is the way to go. People have always seemed to think...."Well Porsche has theirs drilled." so its got be ok. The process of making cross drilled rotors is something of an art. Drilling after the rotors have been made is bad news, and thats what most places do.

I am interested in this kit, but only if it can come with standard rotors and not CD, or slotted.

PM'd you.
Joe

 

we have them cross drilled and slotted by powerslot so they are done by the pro's, we also cyro teated them as well, i canget the rotors any way you would like though

 

powerslot is owned by brembo! thats awesome!

 

good, im not the only one to think that way...is there anyone who casts their brakes with holes?


one more question, how does SS brake lines help?

 

I assume that since stainless lines flex much less, less force is spent flexing the lines, and more is spent applying the pads to the rotors. Correct?

While warping and cracking are a definite concern on the track, I also would assume that on the street, the drilled/ vented rotors ought to work just fine.

If I was racing, I would be very concerned about cracking and warping. But, you just don't get that kind of severe use on most public roads. Increased pad wear is a concern, but if you don't tailgate people to death and practice a little engine braking when coming to a stop, you can make your pads last a long time.

 

i don't think anybody beats on brakes as hard as me, i'll let you know after a few more track days

 

chris, would it be cheaper to get just the msp rotors from you undrilled and unslotted? i'd like them cryogened though.

 

yea it would be cheaper if you just wanted them blank

 

oh sweet! i'll be saving up then. look for me by june! thanks chris!

 

i hope you dont mind me being curious this often, but what do you mean by cryogened?

 

Remember back in Star Wars, when Hans Solo was cast into that solid black object and kept by Jabba the Hutt as a trophy? It's kinda like that, sans the wookie.