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water sprayer or CO2?

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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water sprayer or CO2?

right now I've been dwelling on either do the water spray modification to my intercooler or go with the CO2 spray
because I have both, well sort of I got a NO2 kit from my old 1995 Z-28(dont have anymore) with 2 solinoids a 10 lb tank and a proshot fogger(all NOS) and checking out the cryo2 system that is in the summit magazine if I'm wrong is basicly the same I don't know and was tempted to hook that up for the CO2, in other words could I use it for the CO2? fogger nozzle an all? or should I hook up the water sprayer set up I have the resovoir, bug spray nozzle, and copper lines from a previous car.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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it seems like a water system would be much lighter and easier to deal with. the other question is will a shop will refill a NOS tank with CO2?
how much perforamnce do you gain with either system? i have never messed with either.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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CO2 will cool much better. It discharges at -20* as opposed to water at room temperature. Also, any welding supply shop will refill with either N20 or CO2.....CO2 is much cheaper and just as cold as N20. I've used both, I've never noticed a difference with water sprayers.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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What type of HP boost do ya think you would get with the CO2. I'd imagine its not as high as nitrous since you don't get the Nitrogen Oxygen separeation at high temperatures with CO2.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 04:40 PM
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it's a factor of a whole bunch of things.....spray area size, ambient temperature of entering air, psi, IC effeciency, mounting location....

on a 1996 Honda civic 1.6L T3 motor with FMIC the NX N-tercooler gained 50hp.

this is their claim, I believe this to be much lower. I would estimate 20whp TOPS for a four cylinder turbo application unless heat soak is a big deal. The stock mount IC on the MSP is not real condusive to flow. The sprayer may work very well on that locaton....maybe 10-15whp.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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it was never my intention to run the CO2 as i would nitrous, I just was going to position the fogger nozzle in front of the intercooler so i dont have to buy a spray bar but if the spray was too sparatic Or too large of an area then maybe a spray bar can be fabricated from a home depot trip and run my old N20 line coupled to the spray bar some how either way im leaning more towards to the CO2 and as for filling up the old bottle ill strip the blue paint and paint it the same color as my ride that way there wont be no issues when i go to fill them up. I too was wondering that maybe they wont fill it just because it is a N2O bottle, people tend to wig out when it comes to nitrous, i just dont see paying 189 bucks for a cryo2 replacement bottle, after all i think they are virtually the same right?
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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oh yeah hey roddimus I've been meaning to ask you how do i go about getting that disclaimer on your sig without rewriting it all to add to my sig?
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Defintely Go w/ the CO2..I plan to do the same..once i get an IC on my kit!

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