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VERY interesting auction for AUTOMATIC owners - opinions?

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Old Aug 31, 2002 | 12:16 AM
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VERY interesting auction for AUTOMATIC owners - opinions?

Could this really be true? I've been wanting something like this since DAY ONE!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=1855400396

Anyone know anything about it, or have any opinions about a mod like this?

I think the only complaint I have EVER had about my automatic (other than I wish I had waited to buy a 5-speed ) is that the shifts are kinda slow and don't "wind out" enough under non-aggressive acceleration. Anyone think this is for real? Warranty issues, maybe? (I might consider buying it and waiting to tick-off 50K miles - maybe. I've got 30k already....)

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Old Aug 31, 2002 | 12:53 AM
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Your first clue that this is BS, is the price. Nothing that can actually increase performance would cost less than $10. It's probably similar to the timing kit, and the O2 sensor mod, a bunch of crap that's made out of a .02 resistor.
Old Aug 31, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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I think the Pro shift is aggressive enough.
if you don't beleive it, drive a focus. it has the same AT as the Pro.

You will immedialtely notice that the Pro shifts more aggressively and quickly than the Focus.

Any quicker and you will be jerking your Pro.
And Jerks are not good for the powertrain.
Old Aug 31, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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Originally posted by chikoo
drive a focus. it has the same AT as the Pro.
You sure about this? Are they using the Mazda trannies in the Foci?

I know the've partenered-up, but I didn't think the Focus had any Mazda in it......l

Well, at least we know the Protege has NO FORD in it (thank goodness ).

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Old Aug 31, 2002 | 05:45 PM
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Originally posted by JDMstuff
Your first clue that this is BS, is the price. Nothing that can actually increase performance would cost less than $10. It's probably similar to the timing kit, and the O2 sensor mod, a bunch of crap that's made out of a .02 resistor.
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Old Sep 1, 2002 | 09:57 AM
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I don't know. It all sounds too fishy to me. Like it has already been said an increase of hp for low$$$. I don't know. Sounds too good to be true. And I think that if this does do such a great job we would hear more about it. Oh well that is just my opinion.
Old Sep 1, 2002 | 07:21 PM
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Usually I agree that if something is too good to be true it is. Most of these guys with the cheap upgrades have lots of negitive feedback. This guy doesn't seem to.Try e-mailing some of the others that have bought from him.

I do agree that the AT on the P5 shifts too early. That's why I love my Sport-matic, I just pop it into manual when I need more RPMs.
Old Sep 1, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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I wonder if this is anything similar to the "IAT mod" for MX-6s/626s/Probe GTs with the Mazda 4EAT (type GF).

This mod basically was a switch you could use to switch off the IAT (intake air temp) sensor's signal to the transmission PCM. It would firm up and quicken shifts, sometimes to the point that the tires would bark on the 1-2 upshift. It's hard on the transmission for sure if done in excess.
Old Sep 1, 2002 | 11:03 PM
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somehow altering the sensors to the tranny so it shifts harder sounds like it will kill it. I wonder what mazda's warrantee dept. would have to say about this thing.
Old Sep 1, 2002 | 11:50 PM
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i think i would rather jump off a cliff than bid on that guy's auction...

10 dollars to do a job that requires like 1000's!?!?! yeah right.. RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!! keep dreaming...
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 08:46 AM
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Originally posted by hihoslva


You sure about this? Are they using the Mazda trannies in the Foci?

I know the've partenered-up, but I didn't think the Focus had any Mazda in it......l

Well, at least we know the Protege has NO FORD in it (thank goodness ).

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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 09:41 AM
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re: shift kit - email the guy

This electronic shift kit sounds interesting. Like most said, too good to be true.
Why doesn't someone email the high bidder in a week or two and ask how he likes it? If it works to his liking, others can approach the company. If not...nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Seems the seller has good feedback so I'm sure he doesn't want to damage his reputation.

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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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Dont bother getting it. It is only a resister and you hook it up the same way you would for the Hp one on ebay, I have the directions and will scan this crap in one day and show all the Hp, shift and hell the cold air switch how it really hooks up and does nothing.
Came across it for $.99 cents and almost thought about selling that shiat also but could not rip people off.
Old Sep 6, 2002 | 10:50 AM
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Dont bother getting it. It is only a resister and you hook it up the same way you would for the Hp one on ebay, I have the directions and will scan this crap in one day and show all the Hp, shift and hell the cold air switch how it really hooks up and does nothing.
Came across it for $.99 cents with a buddy of mine and almost thought about selling that shiat also but could not rip people off.

If you wanted find someone that can reprogram your Ecu shifting and pressure settings.
Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:15 PM
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DISCLAIMER: The experience I mention below were not on my Protege5. However, the information can carryover because the operating principals for electronically controlled automatic transmissions remain the same.
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I've used an electronic shift kit, the trans-interceptor. I borrowed it from a friend for one day at the track. It's a $50-75 product similar to this but with a variable resistor, so you can adjust the setting. There's also an adjustment for the TCC. This does not change the shift points, just the level of firmness. It works, but it's nothing special. If you have the TCC setting jacked up, the you may also encounter some strange driving conditions.

At WOT, the car should shift with max line pressure. So this product would be ineffective at WOT. However, at lower throttle positions, you would notice a difference.

I paid $100 for a shift kit where I dropped the pan and installed springs and shims. The shifts were awesome afterwards. I reopened my accumulator with a friend a few months later to check things out. We were at his father's tranny shop and made a similar kit for less than <$1 + gasket on his car. I mention this because you can do low buck tweaks and get some noticeable performance.

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