jstand6

Since Sir Nuke so rudely closed off the thread with a rather broad and possibly incorrect statement, I am reopening it. I also believe moderators should NOT have the power to close threads based on their opinion or whether people agree with them. A whole lot of people left the posting boards at Edmunds.com's Town Hall because the moderators started closing and/or deleting posts and threads based on whether or not they liked you or the car you were talking about. I would hate to see this happen here. Threads should only be closed when the topic has already been discussed heavily or when the thread has shown a long period of inactivity.

Is this a broad statement about all 3rd Generation Protege's? Or is it just specific to the Protege5? I know for a fact (with others who have posted the same, plus personal experience, plus Mazda training material) that the '99-'00 ES models do indeed have a speed governor. Do the others? I don't know, but there seems to be opinions on both sides.

DebaryJoe

He started the thread and based on that he is allowed to close it, just as you have the right to start a new thread (which you can close any time you want to).

I don't think he closed it from an administrative perspective (IMO).

jstand6

True. However, we, as regular users, cannot close a thread. Only moderators can do that.

carguycw

OK, I've mostly been staying out of this, but my 99 also has a speed governor. I have hit it at about 118 mph indicated on the speedometer, and you can DEFINITELY tell you've hit it- the engine note changes and the car suddenly starts to slow down. However, it's not as violent as some other limiters I've experienced- my brother's 200SX SE-R has a limiter that doesn't just stop the car from accelerating, it basically shuts the engine down for ~5 seconds, by which time you've slowed down by 10-15 mph.

DebaryJoe

You are right, I thought I read we could close our own thread. Not true.

VagaBond-X

damn this is still going on hehe

I'm not sure of the 2001+ models, but the 99-00 models do have speed governors, I've hit it. I've had experience with it, yes the car could have gone further, and you wouldn't expect the speed limiter to hit in, even though its climbing really slowly, you know it could still go more


oh ye, Jesse how you finding the mr2, sorry if you already posted about it, I haven't been on as much as usual, so I might have missed the post about it

jstand6

I did not reopen this thread to whine/bitch/complain. I reopened this thread to continue the discussion. I simply posted my reason for reopening it and then continued on with the discussion. Did I feel attacked in some way? No. However, I don't like broad "this is fact" statements, especially coming from moderators who some people will believe is the absolute truth just because they are a moderator or in a position of authority. There are plenty of times when people have posted "this is fact" statements and have been proven wrong. It would have been fine if he made that statement and then allowed further posts to refute or agree. However, that wasn't the case. We've heard my side, we've heard the moderator's side... now back on to the discussion.

When you say older cars, what are you referring to? Anything older than 2000? If I am not mistaken, the 1st gens don't have speed limiters. Limiters are something that computer control and modern technology has brought about.

pimpprotege69

I have a 2000 ES , yes it does have a speed governor.
You know why? CAUSE Ive hit it.

Shuts it down around 115-118 mph as others have said.
I have an automatic by the way.

Sir Nuke

I think you will find that I am one of the EASIEST to get along with mods on this board, and I am NOT just out there closing threads to be closing them because of my opinion. This thread in fact met ALL of YOUR criteria for a thread needing to be closed.

WE as a board have a tendency to "BEAT A DEAD HORSE" from time to time.....this was one of those times. I felt it was not only my right to close it (I started it and the thread was intended to be P-5 specific), but my duty. If you disagree....feel free to do so. Sorry if you felt slighted....it was not my intent.

1. I ask the question in FEBURARY of this year....and it was specific about P-5's

2. the topis HAS been discussed at great length, the thread was three pages long....

3rd and finally..... it had been INACTIVE since FEB 14TH....in my book that is inactive for a LONG period of time, and the ONLY reason it was drug back from about a dozen pages back was one of my friends stated that he had his MP3 up to 140 after putting his turbo on.

and NOW you can continue your discussion about all the other years and models.

:{D

Mac Daddy

Its a fuel cut-off

walight01

p5 and mp3 do not have gov, all others do

kc5zom

Cheer up, I think it must be anti-moderator week or something.

I could not find anyone saying the 2001-2002 had a governor. And all these people hitting 120+ in their Pros indicates to me there probably isn't one, or it is unrealistically high. But it seems weird that Mazda would take the governor out.

Plus I have never seen a soft governor (and I've hit a few). They are very very abrupt. It would take a lot of code and work to make a soft governor that actually throttled down. The ones I have experience with cut fuel and leave it off for a pre-determined period before reengaging it, to prevent the driver from constantly bouncing off of the limit. For some reason dropping 10-15 MPH is enough to make them not hit the damn thing.

twizyours

I have a 2002 ES and have reached 128 and it didnt stop I just let off.

igdrasil

...in another thread about turbo P5 said that at 140mph the governor hitted until reaching back 110Mph...will search

here it is

140MPH governor?????

jstand6

Found out an interesting piece of information... According to Car and Driver, in their review, the Mazdaspeed Protege has a governor limiting top speed to 130mph. RPM at 130mph is 5700.

I e-mailed an inside contact at Mazda regarding top speed governors on Protege's and Protege5's. Hopefully, he'll reply tomorrow.