Strange issue at the gas pumps...
September-25th-2002, 05:06 PM
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when I read the first post I had a strange feeling that the same thing might happen to me.... and it did! the next day!.....
my tank was almost empty (light on) when I went to fill it up at chevron... and it just kept doing the same thing..... fill up like 0.8gallons and then stop..... had to keep trying so many times until the tank was almost full.... cause I didn't know when it was completely full so I could only look at the amount of gallons to guess.
drove from LA to Yosemite.... filled it up there.... did the same thing..... again...
then the problem starting going away the next day..... so it only happened for 2 days.....
I dunno if it has anything to do with the type of gas put in..... when my tank was empty I had 87 octane in it.... so I decided to put in 89 octane cause it was gonna be a long long ride (and I've always used 89, for like 6 months now), fully loaded trunk and 4 people..... so when the problem starting going away I guess it was because the 87 in the tank was gradually used up.... and the problem hasen't happened since then....
my tank was almost empty (light on) when I went to fill it up at chevron... and it just kept doing the same thing..... fill up like 0.8gallons and then stop..... had to keep trying so many times until the tank was almost full.... cause I didn't know when it was completely full so I could only look at the amount of gallons to guess.
drove from LA to Yosemite.... filled it up there.... did the same thing..... again...
then the problem starting going away the next day..... so it only happened for 2 days.....
I dunno if it has anything to do with the type of gas put in..... when my tank was empty I had 87 octane in it.... so I decided to put in 89 octane cause it was gonna be a long long ride (and I've always used 89, for like 6 months now), fully loaded trunk and 4 people..... so when the problem starting going away I guess it was because the 87 in the tank was gradually used up.... and the problem hasen't happened since then....
September-25th-2002, 06:17 PM
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If you change the octane, this maybe one of the reasons for the repeated "stop-fill-stop-fill" jig that is done at the pump. Wouldn't higher octane gas have more gases properties making the pressure in the tank wacked?
September-25th-2002, 07:00 PM
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when I first bought the car I used 91... thinking that its a new car.....
then after 2 months I switched to 89... been using that until like a week ago when after reading all the posts about octane I decided to just use 87.... and then just after 2 pumps of 87 I wanted to use 89 cause I noticed very loud engine noises on hard acceleration..... and the thats when the "stop fill stop thing happened" .... so I guess it could be...
then after 2 months I switched to 89... been using that until like a week ago when after reading all the posts about octane I decided to just use 87.... and then just after 2 pumps of 87 I wanted to use 89 cause I noticed very loud engine noises on hard acceleration..... and the thats when the "stop fill stop thing happened" .... so I guess it could be...
September-25th-2002, 07:38 PM
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I have never used anthing but 87 octane since day one - 32,000 miles worth. 
So octane has nothing to do with this issue.
I think it just might have to do with certain pumps, inc combination with the fill-pipe design of the P5. I filled up the other day at a random station on my way home from work, and I filled the tank from empty to topped-off with no problems whatsoever - and I didn't have to reposition the nozzle or anything.
I'm guessing that the fill-pipe might be a little restrictive, and by chance certain pumps get frazzled by it - and by crazy coincidence, several of these type of pumps are right near my house.
I'll mention it to the dealer for sure, just to be certain, but it'll be several weeks before I get there. At least I've proven I can have a normal fill-up sometimes.
~HH
So octane has nothing to do with this issue.I think it just might have to do with certain pumps, inc combination with the fill-pipe design of the P5. I filled up the other day at a random station on my way home from work, and I filled the tank from empty to topped-off with no problems whatsoever - and I didn't have to reposition the nozzle or anything.
I'm guessing that the fill-pipe might be a little restrictive, and by chance certain pumps get frazzled by it - and by crazy coincidence, several of these type of pumps are right near my house.
I'll mention it to the dealer for sure, just to be certain, but it'll be several weeks before I get there. At least I've proven I can have a normal fill-up sometimes.
~HH
September-25th-2002, 10:17 PM
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Well, my P5 does not have such a constipated fuel filler pipe problem. And logically there is nothing that could cause such a problem to surface after driving X number of miles. Did the pipe develop an aneurism? Is there a gerbil stuck in there? I think not. But many cars I have driven will not allow you to fill as fast as some pumps can deliver fuel when wide open. Some pumps are just 'faster' than others in their max fuel delivery rate. Deal with it by filling slower or find another gas station, if it bugs you that much. There is nothing wrong with your car.
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September-26th-2002, 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by pro02
i have had the same problem. the last 4 times i have put gas in the car it will put a couple of gallons in and then gas just sprays out everywhere. this is something just recently at 2 different gas stations. but when we fill the other car up nothing like this happens.
i have had the same problem. the last 4 times i have put gas in the car it will put a couple of gallons in and then gas just sprays out everywhere. this is something just recently at 2 different gas stations. but when we fill the other car up nothing like this happens.
September-27th-2002, 10:41 AM
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Hi guys.
Well, my experience with that issue:
Happens 60% times with my bro 2001 GM cavalier
60% with my sis 1999 GM venture
0% with my 2003 p5 (hey....it's just 6 days old)
when that happen, just like ppl said, just pull it out a little bit.
enjoy!
happy new 03 p5 owner.
Well, my experience with that issue:
Happens 60% times with my bro 2001 GM cavalier
60% with my sis 1999 GM venture
0% with my 2003 p5 (hey....it's just 6 days old)
when that happen, just like ppl said, just pull it out a little bit.
enjoy!
happy new 03 p5 owner.
September-27th-2002, 03:58 PM
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hihoslva...
DUDE... I never said you were a ******* idiot, and never hinted at it either! The first part was for humor, something of which you obviously lack (did I say that or was I hinting...you figure it out) The rest of the post was a genuine hypothesis as to your problem. If you even read it and not just skimmed through it (blinded by rage?) I mentioned GROUND TANKS...not your tank! Here, read it again.
Originally posted by RebelRacing
I have to ask your age...
When I worked at a gas station, that problem only seemeds to happen to 65+ year old men. And they swear up and down that it wasn't there car. So, after many cracks in the "heed" by walking canes, I'd say it's not the car! LOL!
It could be the pumps are set sensitive. It also could depend on the amount of gas in the ground tanks...and the temp. The gas in the ground is usually about 10-15 deg. C. When the temp outside is hot the gas can expand and vaporize quickly (you can usually see it escaping as you fill your tank.) As the fuel gushes down the filler pipe, the excess vapors cause a backwash of pressures that fool the pump into thinking the tank is full.
I think this could be more appearent in a car with a smaller filler pipe diameter.
They call me the professor, becaus I have all the useless knowledge!
I have to ask your age...
When I worked at a gas station, that problem only seemeds to happen to 65+ year old men. And they swear up and down that it wasn't there car. So, after many cracks in the "heed" by walking canes, I'd say it's not the car! LOL!
It could be the pumps are set sensitive. It also could depend on the amount of gas in the ground tanks...and the temp. The gas in the ground is usually about 10-15 deg. C. When the temp outside is hot the gas can expand and vaporize quickly (you can usually see it escaping as you fill your tank.) As the fuel gushes down the filler pipe, the excess vapors cause a backwash of pressures that fool the pump into thinking the tank is full.
I think this could be more appearent in a car with a smaller filler pipe diameter.
They call me the professor, becaus I have all the useless knowledge!
September-27th-2002, 10:06 PM
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Well - the part about the ground tanks I did not see - so my apologies there for sure. I didn't skim the post, but I did miss the word "ground" - it happens - my bad.
The first part though - I guess I didn't get the sarcasm. I genuinely thought you were giving me some **** - like I'm some senile old bastard.
Anyway - I wasn't "blinded by rage" - guess I misunderstood, and got a slight bit heated. Hey - we all **** up sometimes.
I do appreciate the input - now that I've "gained my sense of humor" back and can see through the thick sarcasm.
Hopefully, no harm done. My apologies.
~HH
The first part though - I guess I didn't get the sarcasm. I genuinely thought you were giving me some **** - like I'm some senile old bastard.
Anyway - I wasn't "blinded by rage" - guess I misunderstood, and got a slight bit heated. Hey - we all **** up sometimes.
I do appreciate the input - now that I've "gained my sense of humor" back and can see through the thick sarcasm.
Hopefully, no harm done. My apologies.
~HH
September-27th-2002, 11:03 PM
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Originally posted by hihoslva
like I'm some senile old bastard.
like I'm some senile old bastard.
