ryankk49

hey...anyone with protege sedan's out there got a short shifter? if u do then where'd u get it from? does it help acceleration? oh and is there anyway u can get one that will fit honda shift *****?

PhotoPro5

Keep in mind that in order to get the most out of your short throw shifter you need to stop granny shifting and start double clutching.

yO!

Toru

I just installed a Kartboy shifter yesterday. I ordered it from Tokigi Racing but you can buy direct from Kartboy if you live in the US (manufacturer does not ship outside US).

The shifter cannot help acceleration. The only advantage you could get is to spend less time changing gears, therefore lose less forward momentum. It could conceivably help drag timing I suppose (1/4 mile or 0-60), but skill would be worth more.

I don't think any of the short shifters for the Protege have a thread other than for factory (non-MP3) shift *****. Are the threads on a Honda **** different?

I am sure that Kartboy could make one with custom threads for you.

sandman

Someone's been watching a little too much fast and the furious i think... you don't double clutch on accelerating like they pretended to do in the movie (cuz it's impossible), you do it when you're downshifting to help ease the engine into the higher rpm of the lower gear..

clutch in, neutral, clutch out, blip gas, clutch in, downshift, clutch out

http://www.driversedge.com/dblcltch.htm

if you do it right, your engine rpms will be matched perfectly to the transmission rpms and you won't experience that engine braking feeling. THAT's the only difference between regular downshifting and double clutching...

So let me ask you, how will downshifting using double clutching vs regular shifting help you get the most out of your short shifter?

sandman

Well, it was aimed at both of you since you had asked what double clutching was, and PhotoPro5 seemed to need an explanation...

cheers!

Dermen

When I downshift I do this:

clutch in, blip gas, clutch out

Double clutching sounds like a waste of time and energy.


Ryankk49 just get an aftermarket shift **** if you don't like the stock one.

PhotoPro5

Thanks, but I was being sarcastic.

You can double-clutch on an upshift if your synchros are worn out (or non-existant) like I do in my old Saab when the transmission fluid hasn't come up to temperature.

sandman

cool man.. wasn't tryin to lecture - no harm meant...

couldn't tell from yer post if u were jokin or not, and foxy was wondering what double clutchin was so i thought i'd kill two birds with one stone..

pr5owner

same, but i sometimes heel-toe it that way also apply brake at the same time. i found that i couldn't heel-toe with the stock pedals, too far apart! but it was no problem after i got A.M. pedals

njaremka

double clutching is pointless on tranny's with syncros, like the protege's. double clutching is more for tranny's without syncros and straight cut dog gears (read high strength racing tranny's and big diesel truck tranny's) to help the gearbox get into gear.

dmitrik4

YES. thank you.

firefly

I can heel-toe with the stock pedal just fine with my size 9 foot. Try to keep your foot as "vertical" as you can against the brake pedal. I don't think they're too far apart but the gas pedal is kinda small and too recessed.

PhotoPro5

No worries