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Old November-4th-2001, 10:24 PM
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Talking JET ECU Upgrade

Anyone else seen this at NOPI?

JET - V-Force Power Control Module - w/o Turbo - 20mhz RISC microprocessor optimizes the ignition spark advance and recalibrates the fuel map for optimum horsepower and acceleration

$203

Any comments? What kind of performance increase are we looking at here from this?
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Performance Chip?

Does anyone know if there is a aftermarket ecu for the Protege5?
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Old November-6th-2001, 09:16 AM
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None that I'm aware of.
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Old November-6th-2001, 09:32 AM
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Doesn't anybody read my posts around here???


Geez...

There's a thread I posted below about the Jet ECU upgrade chip available at NOPI.
It's like $203 or something... www.nopionline.com
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Old November-6th-2001, 09:33 AM
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Gotcha, thanks!! That's the kind of feedback I was looking for...
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There are stand alone chips like Haltek. HKS and A'Pex make some "universal" ECUs. Don't expect any of these to be cheap. Corksport was going to make an upgrade chip through superchips. Also, you COULD get the MP3 ECU from the dealer
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Old November-6th-2001, 10:31 AM
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Would a "piggyback" ecu mod be able to override the ECU at WOT (that's what corksport was trying to get from superchips). I know something like the S-AFC will not and a stand alone like Haltek will.
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Old November-6th-2001, 11:15 AM
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Does the Mazda ECU have a socketed EPROM, or is it soldered in the ECU? I was under the impression the Mazda ECU didn't use a socketed Eprom that could just be replaced.
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Old November-6th-2001, 11:25 AM
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Mp3 ecu

While we are on the subject of our ecu I was wondering if the Mp3 would respond better to mods since their ecu is recaibrated differently. Would it be worth getting?
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Old November-6th-2001, 11:28 AM
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The MP3 ecu is probably just slightly more agressive with spark timing advance, requiring premium fuel. I doubt it would respond much differently to most bolt on mods. Having some adjustability so you could tune the engine to it's best performance with any given mods would be best, but expensive.
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Old November-6th-2001, 12:18 PM
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What about chips that kill the governor????





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Old November-6th-2001, 12:31 PM
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I think for any car with NA engines (non-turbo), changing the ECU won't provide much gains (at least not worth the money). For turbo-charged cars, it can add up to 30+ hp with just an ECU swap! So unless we turbo charged our P5s first (which would be wonderful), there won't be much significant gains by an ECU change.
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an idea..maybe?

Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
yeah......its only recalibrates fuel and ignition during partial throttle.....once WOT is reached, the ECU goes to its preset maps. Basically, you will waste 200 bucks for bad fuel economy.
I was just thinking...if this PCM only increases HP/TQ at partial throttle and not WOT...then, when combined with the FS-ZE cams...couldnt one expect to have a consistent power gain along the whole RPM band?

Also...what do you mean by "bad fuel economy"? Are you suggesting that the engine will use more fuel to make power? In my experience, the adding of fuel (richening) unless accompanied by some forced induction method...leads to poorer performance and less power, not to mention a dirty tailpipe.
It is when the engine runs on a slightly leaner mixture of air/fuel that the power increases (less fuel, more air) ...of course there is a limit on leaning out your air/fuel mixture...you dont want to have detonation because you are not injecting enough fuel into the cylinder.

If this PCM does indeed increase the power of your engine...I am willing to say that it does it by leaning out your air/fuel mixture just a little bit (well within safe operational guidelines). So, then I wonder how it could be causing poor gas mileage if you are running leaner with it.

Please inform me if someone is positive I am incorrect in this speculation.
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Old November-6th-2001, 03:46 PM
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Ok let me be more specific: How about chips that kill the governor on a '00 lx auto. ?????








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Thanks for the re-word ...what are your thoughts on the combination of the FS-ZE cams+PCM?
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