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PUNkProtege March-23rd-2003 11:18 PM

my mom has a GTP
and its fast as hell
runs a 13.5
but my dad fixed it up
corners like mad too
but they are kinda ugly

P5s have more pimp factor down here

Installshield March-23rd-2003 11:45 PM


Originally posted by nate0123


You ready for it?
:bsflag:

99 Mitsubishi Diamante - 3.5 V6 - 230 lb/ft
99 Mitsubishi Montero - 3.5 V6 - 228 lb/ft
99 Acura SLX - 3.5 V6 - 230 lb/ft
99 Honda Odyssey - 3.5 V6 - 229 lb/ft
99 Mazda B4000 - 4.0 V6 - 225 lb/ft

99 NSX Alex Zanardi addition- 3.2L v-6-224.2 lb/ft (close enough)
I think Nissan still made Fairlady Z's (not sure, but I think) in '99
3.0L v6 - 283lb/ft turbo -228 lb/ft N/A...(as of 1996)

eek4ever March-26th-2003 02:49 AM

dude, my point is its got a lot of torque at its price. i got mine for 22k...was a diamante, montero (shitty cars btw), NSX 22k?! speaking of the NSX, what a load of shit that is. why the hell would u pay 90k for an acura instead of getting 2 M3s or a freaking viper or something. i really dont like acura or lexus for that matter....lexus rips off the germans in design and acura is conservative as crap!

oh and back to the grand prix, man the new GTP is so freaking awesome!!! finally, pontiac fixed up the interior and that TAPshift is supposed to be damn good.

but, whatever, this is a protege forum and i love my protege...still wish i coulda gotten that yellow SE-R Spec V for looks but love my ES anyways. now i just gotta concentrate on makin some money and gettin some mods! im really hungry for some extra oomph cuz i can only get excited about handing for so long...

Installshield March-26th-2003 12:29 PM


Originally posted by eek4ever


speaking of the NSX, what a load of shit that is.

oh and back to the grand prix, man the new GTP is so freaking awesome!!!

I was wondering the same thing...

Why would anyone buy one of the best handling supercars in the world? I never understood that...

NO stock M3 can match an NSX's mid-engined balance...And for the record, the E46 M3's do have 30 or so hp more, but they both accelerate with nearly identical numbers...

I through in the Grand prix thing because it is funny...

Scarmiglio March-26th-2003 02:34 PM

The NSX is a bitchin' car, but is long overdue for an enigine/power boost. With its looks and the price tag, it should be pumping at least 350hp.

Redfyre March-26th-2003 02:47 PM

Hey, I started this little discussion a few months back to see how a P5 would fair against a Grand Prix GTP. I was just curious if my car would be able to hold its own against one in a little friendly race with a guy that works with me.

It's been fun reading everyones input. Thanks.

3d-homer March-26th-2003 05:00 PM

I traded in my 99 Gt just recently as well. I was close to 100,000 mile on it. I got a couple of proteges. One of them a 5.

That GTP will kick your ass pretty easily. And the GT could probably take you as well. Aside from the fact that my grand prix hax 100,000 miles on it I loved it. But I'm getting used to my Protege, and the wife won't even let me drive her 5.:mad:

Installshield March-26th-2003 10:43 PM


Originally posted by Scarmiglio
The NSX is a bitchin' car, but is long overdue for an enigine/power boost. With its looks and the price tag, it should be pumping at least 350hp.
I do agree it is pretty expensive for the power output, but even being over a decade old design, it's chassis will hold its own with some of Italy's best...

The Honda NSX-R, which I believe never made it across the pond, (There was some kind of NSX Type S-Zero, which had the suspension components, but not the engine) was had a higher tuned, hand-built 3.2L V-Tech V6 that made approx 340hp...It obviously is not rated at that becuase of Japan's Government restrictions on power output. It was kind of like the R34 Skyline's inline 6 making upwards of 330hp despite being rated at only 287hp...

But yeah you are right, we can't have that one, and for $90,000 you still are not matching a Camaro SS's output, but it's looks and handling make up for it. There is load of rumors going on about the new one's engine. Some say a V-8, Some say a slightly larger and higher output V6, but I haven't heard anything definate yet...And it is unlikely that it will get much more power unless European and North Americam NSX's get a different engine than Japan...

carguycw March-27th-2003 01:02 PM

This thread has gone way off topic, but what the heck... :)


Originally posted by Installshield
There is load of rumors going on about the new one's engine. Some say a V-8, Some say a slightly larger and higher output V6, but I haven't heard anything definate yet...And it is unlikely that it will get much more power unless European and North Americam NSX's get a different engine than Japan...
Rumor has it that the new NSX will have a hybrid powertrain like the Insight, except tuned for performance instead of fuel economy. It will supposedly be a V-6 in tandem with a high-output electric motor, and the article I saw about it called it "electric nitrous". :D

But yeah, the NSX desperately needs more power, and Honda realizes this because the NSX's sales have been in a tailspin for several years. :(

Installshield March-27th-2003 05:04 PM


Originally posted by carguycw
This thread has gone way off topic, but what the heck... :)



Rumor has it that the new NSX will have a hybrid powertrain like the Insight, except tuned for performance instead of fuel economy. It will supposedly be a V-6 in tandem with a high-output electric motor, and the article I saw about it called it "electric nitrous". :D


I heard about that too, I forget which mag but they claimed it was just a platform they were using to show off Honda's future hybrid technology. They said it was not what was going to be in the next NSX, just what Honda will be capable of in years to come. I didn't hear that it would be in the production car, but it would be cool if it was...

nate0123 March-27th-2003 05:30 PM


Originally posted by Installshield
I heard about that too, I forget which mag but they claimed it was just a platform they were using to show off Honda's future hybrid technology. They said it was not what was going to be in the next NSX, just what Honda will be capable of in years to come. I didn't hear that it would be in the production car, but it would be cool if it was...
http://www.protegeclub.com/forum/sho...threadid=22671

Installshield March-28th-2003 12:19 AM

Nate, I just glanced over that thread and links but I don't see how this really applies...

The U.S. spec TSX does not have the hybrid powertrain as of yet (and Car and Driver says there are no plans for it as of now) and just uses a torquier 200bhp version of the RSX's K20. FWIW it is hardly a BMW beater so far too...But also where does this come in on the engine of the new NSX?

nate0123 March-28th-2003 07:45 AM

Yea, it wasn't about the NSX, but it discussed a similar hybrid technology Honda could apply to a vehicle with performance in mind, and not just economy. That was all...

Installshield March-28th-2003 09:41 AM

oh ok, I didn't mean to sound like a dick. I was pissed last night to begin with becuase of all the tests I had today...

But yeah Honda is making some pretty impressive hybrid powertrains. I wonder how well they will fair against a highly tuned standard engine?


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