Motor mounts
June-3rd-2007, 10:58 PM
#17
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Yep.
Four mounts.
At 50K with any 'spirited driving' they are probably shot... Excessive wheel hop, engine moves around easily, and 'lag' as the mounts lash up under accelration are the symptoms. Torn rubber is the visual indication for the sides.
There is a new kinder/gentler upgraded mount than AWR and others have been using the Diesel (yep) motor mounts from Europe.
My AWRs have settled down and do a good job. At first they made everything in the car resonate!
Four mounts.
At 50K with any 'spirited driving' they are probably shot... Excessive wheel hop, engine moves around easily, and 'lag' as the mounts lash up under accelration are the symptoms. Torn rubber is the visual indication for the sides.
There is a new kinder/gentler upgraded mount than AWR and others have been using the Diesel (yep) motor mounts from Europe.
My AWRs have settled down and do a good job. At first they made everything in the car resonate!
June-12th-2007, 11:44 PM
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they wont bend or break. if they would bend or break then they wouldnt have released them. thats what took so long for them to come out, TESTING. there have already been sls side mounts that broke, not the bushing, but the metal itself. i have the front in now and about to do the rear. sides will be out soon. of course awr is going to make the disclaimer, they obviously want you to buy THEIRS and not Street Units. If you want to rattle your car go awr. if you want good mounts that are also good enough to be used on a daily driver, so Street Unit
June-13th-2007, 07:56 AM
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^^ the only SLS mount that broke was a prototype mount, unless you know something I don't.
I've seen my fair share of 3rd gen Protege race cars and I know that not a single one featured 'street unit' mounts. Shiny billet aluminium < solid steel.
The reason the street unit mounts are comfortable for daily driving is that they have the softest inserts out of any mount I've seen, aside from maybe the stock mounts (though when new, the stock mounts 'feel' pretty stiff.
I've seen my fair share of 3rd gen Protege race cars and I know that not a single one featured 'street unit' mounts. Shiny billet aluminium < solid steel.
The reason the street unit mounts are comfortable for daily driving is that they have the softest inserts out of any mount I've seen, aside from maybe the stock mounts (though when new, the stock mounts 'feel' pretty stiff.
June-13th-2007, 12:28 PM
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they aren't on race cars for a reason. race car mounts will rattle the hell out of the car and for a daily driver that isn't what you need. if you are trying to build a race car then yes, go awr and have the **** rattled out of your car, but then again, if you are using it as a race car it doesn't matter about the vibrations out the wahzoo.
June-13th-2007, 12:46 PM
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they aren't on race cars for a reason. race car mounts will rattle the hell out of the car and for a daily driver that isn't what you need. if you are trying to build a race car then yes, go awr and have the **** rattled out of your car, but then again, if you are using it as a race car it doesn't matter about the vibrations out the wahzoo.
- of course, i cant hear any rattles over my exhaust.
June-13th-2007, 01:01 PM
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they aren't on race cars for a reason. race car mounts will rattle the hell out of the car and for a daily driver that isn't what you need. if you are trying to build a race car then yes, go awr and have the **** rattled out of your car, but then again, if you are using it as a race car it doesn't matter about the vibrations out the wahzoo.
June-13th-2007, 01:14 PM
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not sure 75 is even stiff enough for a race car.
sls only has the front and side. no rear yet. if they had their rear out already i would have gotten theirs but SU already has rear and front. sides (both) should be out soon.
sls only has the front and side. no rear yet. if they had their rear out already i would have gotten theirs but SU already has rear and front. sides (both) should be out soon.
June-18th-2007, 09:19 AM
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Side mounts are near the strut towers.. in front of them. Driver's side holds up the tranny, the passenger side one bolts on where the timing belt is.
I know inserts are available from AWR for the 2.0, not sure how different the mounts are on the 1.6 since they must bolt up to the same place on the chassis.. obviously that has no bearing on the shape/size/design of the rubber which would dictate if the inserts were compatible. If they aren't, you could always make your own inserts with .. window weld or whatever that butyl crap is people use. It might not last a long time but it's cheap as hell.
I know inserts are available from AWR for the 2.0, not sure how different the mounts are on the 1.6 since they must bolt up to the same place on the chassis.. obviously that has no bearing on the shape/size/design of the rubber which would dictate if the inserts were compatible. If they aren't, you could always make your own inserts with .. window weld or whatever that butyl crap is people use. It might not last a long time but it's cheap as hell.
June-26th-2007, 03:51 PM
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So... my manual '02 Protege is completely stock, daily driver, 60k miles and my mounts are shot. I've read the rear is a real bitch to replace, so for my situation would I be fine just replacing the front and sides with the SLS mounts? Is the rear really needed for a completely stock, daily driven Protege?