Dermen

This is what led me to believe they weren't going around a curve. And I never said it was impossible to lose traction going in a straight line. I just said it isn't a common thing that leads to loss of control.



My last vehicle was a Ranger and that thing sucked in the snow. That was the main reason I got rid of it.

mopho

Actually, it is fairly common for people to crash while travelling in a straight line. I one had woman suddenly go into a spin right in front of me while we were travelling straight on the highway. I also see tons of skids going across a highway on straight stretch. Any number of reasons could cause it, blow out, fall asleep, someone cuts you off, complete idiot,etc.

proman

The stock dunlops don't really impress me either in the rain or the snow. They're ok but i do lose traction if i don't brake early and lightly and the ABS kicks in. The ABS kicks in even when going only 15 mph. I'm moving in a year also so i'm not going to put money into snow tires but i would definitly consider it if i was to use it for atleast 2 winters. BTW i live in buffalo so we get enough snow here too.

kc5zom

The C1500 was travelling in a straight line. My guess is that he hit a patch of ice under the snow or something stupid like that and spun. I didn't notice anything when I passed over it but I had already started slowing down to avoid him.

Torque

stock dunlop sucks
in the snow or ice.

Dermen

Yeah, if you spin your tires or hit the brakes then it is easy to spin while going straight. But if your just cruising along in a straight line and don't do anything stupid or have somebody else around you do something stupid, or have a tire blow out, then most of the time you won't lose crontrol. I have never had any problem going in a straight line even with my crapy RWD Ranger with bald tires.

pro00

Well, I guess to solve all of the problems, is to stay at home.
Unless, you got work, or just want to test your car in the snow
Then, it is your risk. I drove my pro 2000 Lx on purpose the last snowstorm, and it handled great, was driving within the speed limit and the car handled great.
Ofcourse when I braked suddenly, I almost ended up uniting with the rail to be one ugly scene. However, I would say is to be sensible and careful out there, and always put safety before stupidity!!

stocker

I rechecked the article, thought it was on a straight road to being with. Turned out to be a corner. I've had cars hydroplane or ride up on slush before though on a flat straight road. Good tires always help.
Stocker.

SilverPR5

Umm hello? Wasn't this post about ME being impressed with the stock Dunlops? Maybe you have the wrong pressure? Maybe you don't know how to drive in the snow. TOo many people THINK they know everything about driving in the snow.

mopho

Well when you posted you opened yourself up to receiving differing opinions, so it is not just about you! If you did not want to hear other peoples opinions you should not have posted. My tires are properly inflated and I have been driving in the snow of New England winters for 15+ years and have done a winter rally driving school and I think the Dunlops suck in the snow! Since they are not snow tires and are more performance tires, they should suck in the snow. That is not to say you can't drive in the snow in a pinch, but you will be in trouble if you have to do an emergency maneuver. Since the roads are cleared rather quickly here and (as of this year)I have no place to store another set of wheels, I chose to take a chance on these tires this year, I will not next year. I find they suck in the rain too, they hydroplane easily, and constantly lock up under braking. But they are not rain tires either.
You make it sound like you think you know everything about driving in the snow.
Unless you are a Scandanavian Rally driver you know nothing about driving in the snow

glowck

mopro, The tires they use in those rallys have metal spikes sticking out of the tires. I think the Dunlops are fine in the snow and the rain. We get more rain then snow here, but I have been to Buffalo and Lake Placid New York for Snow Boarding and no slipping. Around here in Washington people drive fast. I seen more 4x4's and subarus stuck or in accidents then FWD cars. My escort gt has Good Years and they suck just me. Snow tires make your car eat to much gas my opinion.

mopho

Not all the rallies allow studs! And the point is those guys have the ultimate skill driving in the snow regardless of the tires and they are the only ones in my opinion who can claim they know everything (or as close to everything as possible) about driving in the snow. The reason you see more 4x4'sstuck in the snow is because those people are idiots who think just because they have 4wd they can drive fast in foul weather

Since you say the Dunlops are ok well then that is it I will now recommend to all the 17 year olds on this forum who have had the license for maybe a year to go out and drive in the snow with no fear on those tires since you have provided the truth about these tires and are the proven expert
Sorry to be so blunt, but that is essentially what you and anybody else who says these tires are fine are saying. They may be adequate if you have lots of experience in the snow, but it is not good advice to tell people who are realitivley new drivers that they can have confidence in those tires in bad weather.

gas is cheaper then death.

Why is it that the younger you are the better a driver you THINK you are?

glowck

So you think you are talking to a 17 year old. I am 28 years old and been driving since I was 15 years old. I learn to drive in up state New York. I am currently in the process of getting my B license to race in the Speed Challenge someday.

You are correct about those fwd and awd people.

If you drive with confidence the Dunlops are a decent tire for us southern people in Maryland and south where we average only 20 inches for a winter, which PA and north get that in a month.

You got to remember some people will go out and get snow tires if they only get 5 inches of snow a year. I think that is funny.

SNOW is Easy to drive in. ICE is what kills you.

mopho

No, I checked to see how old you were (I am 31) first. I too have been driving since 15 and have taken a winter driving school as well as rally school and I am SCCA Rally licensed, although can't afford to race at the moment. But the majority of people on the forum are in that age group (16-21), so I was suggesting that it is not wise to give inexperienced drivers unfounded confidence. When I suggest snow tires I mean Blizzacks which are ice tires first then snow tires, if you are living in deep snow country then Hakkapelita (sp) is the way to go. I have had blizzacks on my other cars for years living in Western Mass, but living in Boston, in the past few years we hardly got any snow, so I said screw it this year- well we have already had more snow this year than the past few combined and I am regretting not buying the Blizzacks.

Dermen

Just because your 17 doesn't mean you don't know how to drive. I am 19 and this is my 5th winter. Nobody in my family has ever had studs except my sister who always had studs. And she has wrecked 4 cars during the winter. Thats out of the 5 cars she has owned, and the winter isnt close to over so she could make it a perfect 5 out of 5. I got into 1 accident, but having studs wouldn't have helped me.

Studs will help to a point. It would be better if all the stupid *** drivers (like my sister) used commen sense while driving in the winter than if they all got studs. If your a bad driver and you get studs your still a bad driver and are gonna end up crashing. They should make it way harder to get your license because there are way too many people that drive like morons.