Do u find ur P5s noisY?
November-13th-2002, 01:27 AM
#3
Protege Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Delta BC
Posts: 13
have you drivin a 3 series?? Didn't think so.
I have. the difference is marginal.
on my P5 have a thick thick coating of undercoat which helps dampen noise a lot.. and also i use fully synthetic oil.
I have. the difference is marginal.
on my P5 have a thick thick coating of undercoat which helps dampen noise a lot.. and also i use fully synthetic oil.
November-13th-2002, 09:03 AM
#9
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Princeton Junction NJ
Posts: 83
quiet liike a 3-series
I had a 78 320i new, the first of the 3 series. If it is still on the road, it might be noisier than a P5. An E46 3 series - no way.
So the P5 is noisy. Is there anything wrong with that?
So the P5 is noisy. Is there anything wrong with that?
November-13th-2002, 09:05 AM
#10
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Minneapolis
Posts: 67
Yeah my 2002 Protege ES is really really noisey. This is my first Jap car and I think its the loudest I've heard. But I still like driving it though... gives it character.
I think its louder for the people inside the car than the outside, it beats my 95 Mustang too, the engine on the mustang isn't nearly as loud, only the sound from the exaust is louder on the stang.
-Peace
btw... no way in hell is the 3 series louder than the protege, my gf drives a 2001 3-series and its no way near as loud as the protege (from the inside).
and whats this custom undercoat painting stuff that you keep talking about (dispersing noise), do all proteges have that? Or is that something custom you put in?
I think its louder for the people inside the car than the outside, it beats my 95 Mustang too, the engine on the mustang isn't nearly as loud, only the sound from the exaust is louder on the stang.
-Peace
btw... no way in hell is the 3 series louder than the protege, my gf drives a 2001 3-series and its no way near as loud as the protege (from the inside).
and whats this custom undercoat painting stuff that you keep talking about (dispersing noise), do all proteges have that? Or is that something custom you put in?
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November-13th-2002, 09:36 AM
#12
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 44
Ha ha!
It does sound like a truck motor.
I've done extensive sound control to my car. Foam, spray, spray foam, dynamat material, felt material and more. It still sounds like a truck, but really nice truck.
I'll be doing more work soon.
Seriously though. I still like the car allot. But Mazda did a poor job with noise. Must not be a big priority in Japan.
It does sound like a truck motor. I've done extensive sound control to my car. Foam, spray, spray foam, dynamat material, felt material and more. It still sounds like a truck, but really nice truck.
I'll be doing more work soon.
Seriously though. I still like the car allot. But Mazda did a poor job with noise. Must not be a big priority in Japan.
November-13th-2002, 12:24 PM
#14
a.k.a. spydermonkey
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: New Orleans
Posts: 1,413
Originally posted by ShyutanSan
and whats this custom undercoat painting stuff that you keep talking about (dispersing noise), do all proteges have that? Or is that something custom you put in?
and whats this custom undercoat painting stuff that you keep talking about (dispersing noise), do all proteges have that? Or is that something custom you put in?
"custome undercoat painting stuff"..."is that something custom put in?"
LOL
Some dealers have this as an option. Mixed reviews on if it helps or not...
November-13th-2002, 12:27 PM
#15
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Posts: 44
Its takes a multi material, multi disciplinary approach. Damping, absorbing and blocking noise. I could have done it better, but cost was also an issue.
My first gripe: I commute on the highway 80 miles a day. The constant drone of the engine buzzing along at 3800 was annoying. I got some high temp foil backed foam that's commonly used in engine bay type applications. I put it on the firewall and put a big sheet on as a hoodliner. My next step is to get an MP3 engine cover and put some foam in that as well. Its still louder than I like, but at 70+MPH the engine noise is almost gone. Though, strangely, its still loud in the high revs while accelerating. I believe the foam is most effective for certain frequencies. The upper rev ranges exceed those frequencies. But it did mellow the sound and take away the dashboard buzz at the 6 grand to redline range.
My next step was too reduce road noise, cut down on the rock and gravel pinging noise, and cut down on the whooshing noise when the roads are wet. I have never been in a car that makes so much noise on wet roads or makes so much noise when its in gravel. Its like the windows are down, or there's a huge hole in the floor. It appears that most of the noise is coming from the trunk area.
I took out the seats and the rug and put down some felt material with caulk. The felt material is used under the rug on many GM products. The caulk was an attempt to receive vibration and damping benefits w/out the weight of using my dynamat material. I have used this tactic on a few other cars before and was happy with the results. Only partially happy with this car. The whooshing noise was cut down about 15%, the rock pinging noise was cut down about 75%, and the road noise about 15%.
My next step was to dynamat the front doors(I use a much less expensive dynamat alternative. Same stuff, 80% less $). My goal here was to make my mid bass response a little tighter and cut down on more road, whoosh, and ping noise. I completely dynamated the inside of the doors and used the felt material(another GM trick) on the backside of the interior door covers. I also made a bottom seal for the lower part of the doors. Now my doors are double sealed all the way around. Not just at the top. My front doors are pretty solid now, but allot of noise is still comes from the trunk area and back doors.
I recently gutted the trunk and sprayed it down with damping spray and then put down three rolls of a material commonly used to dampen and noise reduce HVAC ducting. This cut down on the noise about another 10%. I was expecting much more, but it was a very cheap attempt.
My next goals are:
Fill the rocker panels with foam.
Fill the Pillars with foam.
Ad foam to the inner firewall and under dash area.
Complete the back doors like the front and ad another seal(back doors are only a single seal, very cheap.)
All this and I just put my loud and annoying winter tires on, so my noise went up another 75%.
My first gripe: I commute on the highway 80 miles a day. The constant drone of the engine buzzing along at 3800 was annoying. I got some high temp foil backed foam that's commonly used in engine bay type applications. I put it on the firewall and put a big sheet on as a hoodliner. My next step is to get an MP3 engine cover and put some foam in that as well. Its still louder than I like, but at 70+MPH the engine noise is almost gone. Though, strangely, its still loud in the high revs while accelerating. I believe the foam is most effective for certain frequencies. The upper rev ranges exceed those frequencies. But it did mellow the sound and take away the dashboard buzz at the 6 grand to redline range.
My next step was too reduce road noise, cut down on the rock and gravel pinging noise, and cut down on the whooshing noise when the roads are wet. I have never been in a car that makes so much noise on wet roads or makes so much noise when its in gravel. Its like the windows are down, or there's a huge hole in the floor. It appears that most of the noise is coming from the trunk area.
I took out the seats and the rug and put down some felt material with caulk. The felt material is used under the rug on many GM products. The caulk was an attempt to receive vibration and damping benefits w/out the weight of using my dynamat material. I have used this tactic on a few other cars before and was happy with the results. Only partially happy with this car. The whooshing noise was cut down about 15%, the rock pinging noise was cut down about 75%, and the road noise about 15%.
My next step was to dynamat the front doors(I use a much less expensive dynamat alternative. Same stuff, 80% less $). My goal here was to make my mid bass response a little tighter and cut down on more road, whoosh, and ping noise. I completely dynamated the inside of the doors and used the felt material(another GM trick) on the backside of the interior door covers. I also made a bottom seal for the lower part of the doors. Now my doors are double sealed all the way around. Not just at the top. My front doors are pretty solid now, but allot of noise is still comes from the trunk area and back doors.
I recently gutted the trunk and sprayed it down with damping spray and then put down three rolls of a material commonly used to dampen and noise reduce HVAC ducting. This cut down on the noise about another 10%. I was expecting much more, but it was a very cheap attempt.
My next goals are:
Fill the rocker panels with foam.
Fill the Pillars with foam.
Ad foam to the inner firewall and under dash area.
Complete the back doors like the front and ad another seal(back doors are only a single seal, very cheap.)
All this and I just put my loud and annoying winter tires on, so my noise went up another 75%.