Mutt

Hi guys,

Just did some shopping around and ending up buying a 2002 MP5 from Sunridge Mazda. Best word to describe the car, would be agile. Obviously not a top speed car but seems like its going to be a real fun daily driver.

Noticed a few posters also from Calgary, and I was wondering if you guys had any tips for good local places for parts. Would like to sink some money into all the smaller upgrade stuff like the exhaust, intake, etc.

Any recomendations?

KrayzieFox

Welcome to the club! You'll enjoy your P5, they're extremely fun and great handling cars.

Check www.protegegarage.com for any type of aftermarket parts, or simply send a private message (PM) to Ken@Protegegarage.

Also, contact Kargoboy if you're interested in a cheap quality intake, he is the only vendor supplying Simota intakes to the 3rd gen Proteges. They are high quality but half the price of AEM or Injen. Happy shopping, and enjoy your stay

Also, www.corksport.com and www.hopupracing.com are decent sites to visit. www.awrracing.com has quality suspension parts if you're interested in making you ride handle better, and if your P5 is manual I recommend visiting www.kartboy.com ... I've heard really good things about their shifter bushings!

kargoboy

Welcome--and thanks for the plug Kfox.
I'm doing a Group Buy for intakes right now on another forum. It's closing Friday, so let me know. here's the link:

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123641071

If you want in, just let me know here...

KrayzieFox

I'm definately not getting comission from this or anything, but the intakes Kargo is selling are the best deal you will find anywhere. If you have some spare change and you're interested in doing stuff to your ride, an intake would be a really nice addition. You're looking at around and over $200 for any CAI out there, and almost just as much for most brand name SRI intakes. Sure you can get a cheap SRI on eBay but you're gonna have to spend just as much to get a decent air filter, so throwing in an extra $20 can get you a top notch intake with a great air filter included

Mutt

The car is auto so the gf can drive it, but its alright with me. Thing came with only 30, 000 kms on it, so Im touching almost a new car here.

The Simota deal sounds like a really good buy from what I have seen just looking around on some vendor sites. I will let you know by Friday if Im in or not, leaning towards in though.

Im new to modding my car, and Ive never installed one myself, but they seem pretty straight forward, anything I should be aware of? Btw could I get a little help on the nomenclature for a few acronyms? CAI is cold air intake, but what does SRI stand for?

As well any good deals on air filters, or should I just go grab a K&N from parts source?

Been reading that the NGK iridium spark plugs are a good grab as well, thoughts?

KrayzieFox

No need to get a K&N if you're interested in the Simota group buy. Their intake will do the job as well, but do pick up a K&N recharge kit so you can keep it clean and breathin right. As far as the plugs go, I hope NGK is what you meant to say. If so I agree with you all the way ... but honestly the stock plugs will do unless they're due for a replacement. Judging from you previous comment, 30k KM is not very much so I believe the plugs in there right now should be good for at least another 20K.

Mutt

Alright, Ill put the plugs on the back burner for a bit, and yes I meant NGK. Since you're active on here Krayzie, could you tell me the difference between the twin charger CAI and normal CAI?

KrayzieFox

Kargo likes to explain it all nice and fancy, but I'll do my best to just kinda describe what it does.

Normal CAI simply draws colder air from inside the fender, as opposed to hot air from the engine bay. The Twin Charger uses the same design, but it manages to squeeze in more air into the engine, because the first pipe that goes from the air filter the the MAF sensor is larger than the one extending from the MAF to the throttle body. Because the diameter of the first pipe is bigger it has a higher capacity of course, so more air can fit inside it. When all that air reaches the smaller pipe it's forced by the pressure of the new air coming into the larger pipe from the air filter and proceeds into the engine anyway. The physics behind it is that the same volume of air can fit inside a smaller capacity pipe due to the acceleration of air. Simply put the Twin Charger uses different diameter pipes to somewhat compress air within the intake and get it moving faster, thus resulting in a tiny power increase. Nothing noticable, but cool to have and explain to others... it's just somethin different that the standard SRI vs. CAI.

Mutt

Does this extra air also result in a richer burn and as such better fuel mileage? Or is it not noticeable.

Been doing some reading on a CAI vs SRI. CAI's have problems with water locking and get their air from the wheel well correct? SRI's (short ram intake) get the air intake inside the engine but just above the wheel well. SRI's yield 4-8 hp and CAI's yield 6-10?

Anyone in calgary have a problem with waterlocking a CAI? Im thinking the slushtastic roads in the winter probably arent too much fun.

Kargo are the SRI's you are selling in this thread, available for the GB?: https://www.mazda3club.com/showthrea...ght=SRI+intake

This is the picture of the SRI you are selling in that one correct?
https://www.mazda3club.com/attachmen...achmentid=5941

kargoboy

Wow, I missed a lot here. Maybe I should give Kfox a commission.
In answer to your questions:
No, you won't really notice a difference in better mileage. Any would be miniscule.
Realistic HP gains are 2-4whp. Don't believe all that other stuff you read. It'll never happen.
Can't answer for the Calgary folks but hydrolocking is very rate and you'd have to drive through puddles deep enough to submerge the filter. Normal wet/slushy roads will be OK.
That thread you found here is an old one. The msprotege thread has more current, actual pics.
As for SRIs, I have for the 2.0l only the Carbon Fiber SRI.
You can find the pic of it here, post#2---and I have that one in stock, ready to ship.

http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showt...hp?t=123636263

macdaddyslomo

On the hydro locking issue...in order to suck water into the engine, you would need to have the filter completely submerged, and gun the engine....we are talking about rolling through around 2 feet of water here and punching it hard....it has happened , but VERY unlikely... I live in florida, and have NEVER had a problem with a CAI

KrayzieFox

Yea the only time you might need to worry about hydrolock is the time you really shouldn't be driving anyway. If there's that much water on the road, I think it's smarter to just pull over and wait a few minutes anyway ... regardless of CAI or not.

Mutt

Ah ok, it is generally dry in calgary, and if Im in snow 2ft high, im in more trouble than hydrolocking.

In all the pics for the CAI's I didnt really see a filter of some kind like on the SRI's or normal intake filters. Where does the CAI have a filter or is there even one?

kargoboy

If you were looking at the installed CAI pics you would not see the filter as it is inside the fender well. However if you look at some of the other pics all of the filters from Simota are the blue ones.

Mutt

Yea its a good filter colour for my car. Now being in the wheel well, does it not get dirtier faster? I use the K&N refill cleaner to clean it still I presume.

The price for the GB is so good, that even if its not what Im looking for in the end, Im not out the 250 if I got it from a top brand vendor.

Is there a good link to a walkthrough on how to install one of these? Im not sure how good the intructions that come with the CAI are. I think I read somewhere you have to take off the bumper to install it.

Seems like mostly bolt on work, but Id like to know from people who have put them on.