Who Out There Have Headers On Their 3rd Gen?
January-8th-2003, 01:31 PM
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Who Out There Have Headers On Their 3rd Gen?
Just asking this question cause i'm being torn apart on wheather i should go N/A (better for AutoXross) or turbo (***** out power)....so just want to know what kinda gains y'all been getting......
TIA
TIA
January-12th-2003, 06:16 AM
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hmmm....what does this mean?
quote from AWR Site regarding headers....
This design eliminates the stock converter. Our cars use different engine management systems and it is not known if this can be used on a stock system
Does anyone know if it does fit the 2.0l that we have...?
quote from AWR Site regarding headers....
This design eliminates the stock converter. Our cars use different engine management systems and it is not known if this can be used on a stock system
Does anyone know if it does fit the 2.0l that we have...?
January-12th-2003, 03:04 PM
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Yes it will fit but will need mods for EGR and will ELIMINATE FIRST CONVERTER
Yes it will fit but will need mods for EGR and will ELIMINATE FIRST CONVERTER , no place for o2 sensor. Will throw CEL .
NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE!
NOT WORTH THE TROUBLE!
January-12th-2003, 08:52 PM
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apc makes a header i think, www.nopi.com
January-13th-2003, 11:52 PM
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I talked to nopi already, they didnt get them yet. Its supposed to be a 4-1 design. That traveler guy makes them but hell $500 for header w/out dynos or anything FORGET IT! I can get a custom turbo manifold made+downpipe for $600 INSTALLED! Then 300-400 for the turbo and intercooler and BOOM, who needs headers. h&r racing are coming out with headers. Its a 4-1 design which eliminates the cat and has a housing for the o2 sensor. But like all the other companies, no word from them yet either.....
January-14th-2003, 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by zoompr5man
Then 300-400 for the turbo and intercooler and BOOM, who needs headers.....
Then 300-400 for the turbo and intercooler and BOOM, who needs headers.....
This is what my Focus tuner has to say about doing your own turbo setup:
Guys its not easy and it will be more work that you think by 4x and cost will be higher also i have been there and done this on many more than the focus
Sit down and add up every piece from .50 cent to what ever what are you going to do about tuning ,dyno time,hoses.clamps,fittings,gaskets,shipping,phone calls,welding,oil return lines,adaptors,mass air,injectors,waste gate,bov,oil lines
Sit down and add up every piece from .50 cent to what ever what are you going to do about tuning ,dyno time,hoses.clamps,fittings,gaskets,shipping,phone calls,welding,oil return lines,adaptors,mass air,injectors,waste gate,bov,oil lines
January-14th-2003, 12:37 PM
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its the concept, of course there is more work than just manifold, turbo, exhaust, intercooler to a turbo setup. You need fuel management, controls, guages, piping(of course), etc....etc.... I wasnt saying it was that easy, so if you took it that way, its on you and do your homework.
January-14th-2003, 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by zoompr5man
its the concept, of course there is more work than just manifold, turbo, exhaust, intercooler to a turbo setup. You need fuel management, controls, guages, piping(of course), etc....etc.... I wasnt saying it was that easy, so if you took it that way, its on you and do your homework.
its the concept, of course there is more work than just manifold, turbo, exhaust, intercooler to a turbo setup. You need fuel management, controls, guages, piping(of course), etc....etc.... I wasnt saying it was that easy, so if you took it that way, its on you and do your homework.
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January-15th-2003, 04:32 AM
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Originally posted by zoompr5man
its the concept, of course there is more work than just manifold, turbo, exhaust, intercooler to a turbo setup. You need fuel management, controls, guages, piping(of course), etc....etc.... I wasnt saying it was that easy, so if you took it that way, its on you and do your homework.
its the concept, of course there is more work than just manifold, turbo, exhaust, intercooler to a turbo setup. You need fuel management, controls, guages, piping(of course), etc....etc.... I wasnt saying it was that easy, so if you took it that way, its on you and do your homework.
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