View Poll Results: Power for less $
Jspec FS-ZE (~$2000)
5
16.13%
Turbo (~$3500)
20
64.52%
High comp stock engine (~$?)
1
3.23%
Nitrous (~$600)
5
16.13%
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June-17th-2003, 08:54 PM
#3
Protege Enthusiast
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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to be fair in that poll you would have t include the assumed hp gains that would result from each application.
Which brings me to my question on what the ratings are on the Jspec engine mentioned in the poll? Hp and torque I mean.
Also look at what you have to do for each, you included the whole cost for a turbo upgrade but a nitrous system really should only be adopted once the engine has been set up to handle it.
Then comes in personal preference, I prefer to work on my car myself, I enjoy doing it and getting a much better feeling of accomplishment and pride in the work if it is done by me. I do have my dad who has 24+ years in automotive tuning supervise what I do.
And lastly what do you want to do with the car when done, drag, street, drift, autoX....things you need to decide before the actual engine decision.
Which brings me to my question on what the ratings are on the Jspec engine mentioned in the poll? Hp and torque I mean.
Also look at what you have to do for each, you included the whole cost for a turbo upgrade but a nitrous system really should only be adopted once the engine has been set up to handle it.
Then comes in personal preference, I prefer to work on my car myself, I enjoy doing it and getting a much better feeling of accomplishment and pride in the work if it is done by me. I do have my dad who has 24+ years in automotive tuning supervise what I do.
And lastly what do you want to do with the car when done, drag, street, drift, autoX....things you need to decide before the actual engine decision.
June-18th-2003, 12:33 AM
#5
Slowtegé
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,425
I would say turbo. FS-ZE is gonna be a pain in the *** unless you get the ECU up and running too. After all, the engine is not much different than the FS-DE. Intake manifold, cams, and high compression pistons.
I say Flyin' Protege turbo kit. At least that's what I'd do.
I say Flyin' Protege turbo kit. At least that's what I'd do.
June-18th-2003, 09:59 PM
#7
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Ok City
Posts: 3,143
not gonna vote on this, but i'll give my opinion...
turbo is good...but you're gonna pay way more than that for a complete system that will allow you to run more than 5psi w/out blowing anything up...
nitrous...you won't be able to run too much on a stock engine...
high comp stock engine...probably won't give you the power you want and will be more costly than cost effective...
engine swap on a new car??? geez...
i've seen too many power-hungry greedy car enthusiasts looking for a quick solution to the 'lack of power' issues in 4 cyl engines...if you are going to do something, do it right, and do it right the first time or you will find out that replacing engines becomes a costly hobby
turbo is good...but you're gonna pay way more than that for a complete system that will allow you to run more than 5psi w/out blowing anything up...
nitrous...you won't be able to run too much on a stock engine...
high comp stock engine...probably won't give you the power you want and will be more costly than cost effective...
engine swap on a new car??? geez...
i've seen too many power-hungry greedy car enthusiasts looking for a quick solution to the 'lack of power' issues in 4 cyl engines...if you are going to do something, do it right, and do it right the first time or you will find out that replacing engines becomes a costly hobby
June-19th-2003, 12:25 AM
#9
Use this to install stuff
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: State College, PA
Posts: 1,069
she probably means plan ahead. Your 2k dollar price quote on an FS-ZE is most likely for a long block without the ECU or harness. so your 2000 clam investment will not yield much of anything but annoying hassles.
I had too much to drink tonight so I am going to give you my opinion, so watch out I am nuts...spend under $1000 on the engine. take $1000 out of your bank account or whatever and dedicate it to the engine. You could go with nitrous, which I would not recommend (the biggest plus is when little ignorant backflippers ask you if it has NOS, you can reply with NO and a swift kick to the chin) Buy a good exhuast, a good header, a good intake, and a set of cams. If you come out with extra money save it for the second part...Spend as much possible money you can allow yourself to on the suspension. Mazda did a brilliant job when creating the 3rd gen. Start with lightwieght wheels and excellent tires, then go from there. The engine will perform better but not be putting front wheel traction in the hospital.
Honestly...If I was someone else I would always listen to the opinion I just made. (?) It's the best...If you make a different decision, you are simply confused and for some reason decided to make a bad decision...
I had too much to drink tonight so I am going to give you my opinion, so watch out I am nuts...spend under $1000 on the engine. take $1000 out of your bank account or whatever and dedicate it to the engine. You could go with nitrous, which I would not recommend (the biggest plus is when little ignorant backflippers ask you if it has NOS, you can reply with NO and a swift kick to the chin) Buy a good exhuast, a good header, a good intake, and a set of cams. If you come out with extra money save it for the second part...Spend as much possible money you can allow yourself to on the suspension. Mazda did a brilliant job when creating the 3rd gen. Start with lightwieght wheels and excellent tires, then go from there. The engine will perform better but not be putting front wheel traction in the hospital.
Honestly...If I was someone else I would always listen to the opinion I just made. (?) It's the best...If you make a different decision, you are simply confused and for some reason decided to make a bad decision...
June-19th-2003, 03:38 PM
#10
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Originally posted by Z me Pro
when u say do it right, do you mean for example, when putting the turbo in, go and revamp everything with forged this and that so you don't go and blow stuff up? or what?
when u say do it right, do you mean for example, when putting the turbo in, go and revamp everything with forged this and that so you don't go and blow stuff up? or what?
there is more to it than just 'bolting up' stuff, i.e. beefing up the bottom end, tranny, making sure your fuel management is taken care of, getting a new clutch to handle more power, getting gauges/electronics to control your new power adders, wheels/tires for racing, new differential (LSD) for when you blow yours up from too much torque
, and the list goes on and on... i guess it all depends on 'how much' power you're actually looking for, but from what i've seen, if 150hp is good, then why not try for 200? if 200 is good, why not try for 250? if 250 is doable, why not 300? and so on and so forth.
and yeah...speaking from experience here
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