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Shasta September-9th-2007 07:33 AM

P5 vs. Focus SVT Engine
 
I think we all know that Ford and Mazda have been married forever and I'm just wondering the differences are between the SVT and P5 motors? How did they squeeze 170hp out of their 2.0L, are they not the same motor?

Does anyone know off hand the differences?

JoshP5 September-9th-2007 08:45 AM

They're totally different engines. As far as I know there are no shared parts.

_Kansei_ September-9th-2007 11:34 AM

The P5 motor is circa like.. 1992 :P

With a different intake manifold and ECU the MP3 managed 140hp on our motor.. but that's just shifting the powerband mostly, not really crazy newfound power.

The only sharing between Mazda and the Focus is that the current north american Focus uses the MZR engines (2.0 and 2.3) from the 3.. but of course they aren't totally the same.


Originally Posted by wikipedia
The 2.0 L Zetec shared its 84.8 mm (3.339 in) bore and 88 mm (3.465 in) stroke with its predecessor, the 2.0 L 2-valve CVH.

A high 10.2:1 compression ratio and larger valves contributed to the SVT version's much-higher output.

well there's your answer.. high compression, different head, etc vs the normal 2.0 zetec.. but yeah not the same engine as our FS-DE at all. the zetec was made in Mexico


Originally Posted by more wikipedia
Mechanically, the car featured a thoroughly reworked version of the 2.0 liter Zetec engine available in other Focus models. Developed by Cosworth, this engine featured many advanced technologies. Included were a special aluminum cylinder head with enlarged intake ports, heavy duty pistons and connecting rods, piston oil squirters, variable camshaft timing, dual stage intake manifold, and a 4-2-1 tubular exhaust header. These additions coupled with an increased 10.2:1 compression ratio bumped horsepower from 130 to 170, while still achieving good fuel economy and emissions. For the transmission, Ford went to German manufacturer Getrag to provide a six-speed manual which is shared in the Mini Cooper S. This transmission was a twin layshaft design, and included a dual mass flywheel to eliminate vibration.


Shasta September-9th-2007 03:23 PM

Wow thanks, I just wondered cause my neighbors friend just picked one up a cheap to be his daily driver and when he left yesterday the thing launched and just peeled the tires off, really cool.

JoshP5 September-9th-2007 05:36 PM

Yeah, it's a pretty nice package. But the Focus looks better out-of-focus.

_Kansei_ September-9th-2007 05:52 PM

*crosses fingers for euro focus st to appear in my garage*

jzoomer September-9th-2007 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by _Kansei_ (Post 391646)
*crosses fingers for euro focus st to appear in my garage*

HELL YEA THATS A BAD CAR I WANT ONE MYSELF...

Hyperion September-9th-2007 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by _Kansei_ (Post 391646)
*crosses fingers for euro focus st to appear in my garage*

I saw one driving around Houston a month ago, that was freakin nice. first I thought it was a new version of the Focus SVT but I got up to it and it was ST looked it up online and (drool)

_Kansei_ September-9th-2007 07:46 PM

OMG PLS I HOPE THEY ARE RESEARCHING BRINGING IT HERE!!!! sooo much

J-Protege September-10th-2007 03:12 AM

Euro Focus? Pics?

Hyperion September-10th-2007 07:19 AM

http://www.fordeumicrosites.com/en-g...sst/flash.html

Liquid_Ag September-10th-2007 08:57 AM

mmm

JoshP5 September-10th-2007 11:13 AM

Killer animations. Looks better than the SVT.

Hyperion September-10th-2007 12:03 PM

haha looking closer at the rear bumper, it comes with backup sensors for the 2 foot tall people that may be hiding there.
I like the maximum 150mph top speed where legal lol

found some other pictures, in the form of backgrounds http://www.desktopmachine.com/cars/2...pers.html?t=84

KrayzieFox September-10th-2007 12:17 PM

Damn that's a nice car considering it's made by Ford.


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