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P5 vs. Focus SVT Engine
I think we all know that Ford and Mazda have been married forever and I'm just wondering the differences are between the SVT and P5 motors? How did they squeeze 170hp out of their 2.0L, are they not the same motor?
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They're totally different engines. As far as I know there are no shared parts.
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The P5 motor is circa like.. 1992 :P
With a different intake manifold and ECU the MP3 managed 140hp on our motor.. but that's just shifting the powerband mostly, not really crazy newfound power. The only sharing between Mazda and the Focus is that the current north american Focus uses the MZR engines (2.0 and 2.3) from the 3.. but of course they aren't totally the same.
Originally Posted by wikipedia
The 2.0 L Zetec shared its 84.8 mm (3.339 in) bore and 88 mm (3.465 in) stroke with its predecessor, the 2.0 L 2-valve CVH.
A high 10.2:1 compression ratio and larger valves contributed to the SVT version's much-higher output.
Originally Posted by more wikipedia
Mechanically, the car featured a thoroughly reworked version of the 2.0 liter Zetec engine available in other Focus models. Developed by Cosworth, this engine featured many advanced technologies. Included were a special aluminum cylinder head with enlarged intake ports, heavy duty pistons and connecting rods, piston oil squirters, variable camshaft timing, dual stage intake manifold, and a 4-2-1 tubular exhaust header. These additions coupled with an increased 10.2:1 compression ratio bumped horsepower from 130 to 170, while still achieving good fuel economy and emissions. For the transmission, Ford went to German manufacturer Getrag to provide a six-speed manual which is shared in the Mini Cooper S. This transmission was a twin layshaft design, and included a dual mass flywheel to eliminate vibration.
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Wow thanks, I just wondered cause my neighbors friend just picked one up a cheap to be his daily driver and when he left yesterday the thing launched and just peeled the tires off, really cool.
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Yeah, it's a pretty nice package. But the Focus looks better out-of-focus.
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*crosses fingers for euro focus st to appear in my garage*
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Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 391646)
*crosses fingers for euro focus st to appear in my garage*
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Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 391646)
*crosses fingers for euro focus st to appear in my garage*
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OMG PLS I HOPE THEY ARE RESEARCHING BRINGING IT HERE!!!! sooo much
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Euro Focus? Pics?
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mmm
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Killer animations. Looks better than the SVT.
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haha looking closer at the rear bumper, it comes with backup sensors for the 2 foot tall people that may be hiding there.
I like the maximum 150mph top speed where legal lol found some other pictures, in the form of backgrounds http://www.desktopmachine.com/cars/2...pers.html?t=84 |
Damn that's a nice car considering it's made by Ford.
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Ford makes some nice cars, they just sell them in Europe. We get the Taurus.
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Originally Posted by KrayzieFox
(Post 391743)
Damn that's a nice car considering it's made by Ford.
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http://s2.desktopmachine.com/pics/Fo...s-226-1024.jpg
so killer looking. love everything about it! I can't get enough of that 'kinetic design' style euro Ford uses (mondeo, s-max, focus, and others) in my eyes it totally kicks the butt of the Audi A3 and for a bit less money! |
Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 391768)
It's on the S40/Mazda3 chassis, though the 5-cyl turbo is obviously no Mazda engine *looks toward Volvo*
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it's not that weird.. it's not like it's a V engine, it's inline. It gives you half the power boost of a V6 vs i4 but without the full fuel economy hit of the V6.
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That stuff has more to do with displacement (and other factors) than configuration. The I-5 was more likely selected for packaging reasons.
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I'm not sure what packaging reasons though, as a 2.5 i4 vs 2.5 i5.. the i5 is going to be longer. I know volvo has been doing 5 cylinders since at least the mid 80s so I would imagine part of the reason was that a 4-cylinder of that displacement would have been VERY unrefined back then. A 2.5 4 is hardly refined even today.
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Haha--remember the Porsche 968--3 liters of inline 4 fury! But balance shafts tamed the intrinsic secondary balance problems.
Ford's engine selection probably had to do with what was available in the parts bin, too. |
Originally Posted by _Kansei_
(Post 391768)
It's on the S40/Mazda3 chassis, though the 5-cyl turbo is obviously no Mazda engine *looks toward Volvo*
selling for $30,611 U.S. if they bring it here I hope they drop the price a bit, vw gti mk5's are fully loaded for that in the states my problem with the svt from was there wasnt any advertising about it, the only reason i found out about it existed was bc a friend drove 5 hours to buy one lol ford has too much money in their trucks and mustangs imo maybe when i graduate college i can get a job in europe lol |
The euro focus does not really compete with the Gti .. think Audi A3.. which can get over 36k no issue.
competes with the Volvo C30 as well. |
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