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Old June-5th-2003, 02:58 AM
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Thumbs down neeeed mooooree pooowweerrr

i was drivin down 17 today to santa cruz w/ a few ppl in the car, when i was tryin to pass ppl, my car just crapped out, no power, nothin, the engine is just weak. There was some black bmw smokin through everyone, but i couldn't keep up in the straight areas...
now to my question, what can i do ( i know this is frequently asked)

intake?
cams?
i donno?
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Old June-5th-2003, 03:45 AM
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Honestly, buy another car if you want some power.

Turbo or nitrous if you want to keep your Protege. Nothing else will give you enough power.
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Old June-5th-2003, 07:55 AM
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You need more power you have a 2l engine you know what Ive got 1.6l baby. Think of it this way youve got like 30 hp on me.

Proteges are underpowered its pathetic. Just go with a turbo then you can start ripping some ***. There are a few turbo kits out for the pro5 so you should be fine.

I know a few people that think that my car is fast because it is a mazda, little do they know.
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Old June-5th-2003, 10:10 AM
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17, eh?

Try Hwy 9 late night all alone.

I hang with the big dogs over there.

An S2000 tried to ride my bumper once and I just hauled *** and soon enough I couldn't even see him in my rearview mirror.

Our cars like twisties not straights :-p

So what about this Bay Area meet ?
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Old June-5th-2003, 04:30 PM
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yea, what about a meet?
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Old June-5th-2003, 05:02 PM
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It can be done.
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Old June-5th-2003, 09:08 PM
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A Protege with JIC FLTA2s & bigger bars could out-handle a stock s2000. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the MSP can out-handle an s2000 also. (using slalom speeds and skidpad as a measure of handling).
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Old June-5th-2003, 09:48 PM
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that's nice

moded vs stock = NO comparison

stock vs stock, the S2000 will never lose to a protege

Originally posted by Scarmiglio
A Protege with JIC FLTA2s & bigger bars could out-handle a stock s2000. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the MSP can out-handle an s2000 also. (using slalom speeds and skidpad as a measure of handling).
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Old June-5th-2003, 10:24 PM
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So what DOES the Protege handle better than other than Cadillacs and SUVs?

Seems to me the Protege's strongest point isn't so strong after all.

So what can the Protege outhandle for $17k (stock)? A Dodge Neon ? Whoopdy-*******-doo.
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Old June-5th-2003, 10:49 PM
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S2000 vs. Protege

Protege is much easier to drive fast than a S2000. I know!!
Before I moved to Florida- home of the flat straight road- I used to love "pushing" people in fancy sportscars. I have been autocrossing for over 5 years, and truth is, I wouldn't want to drive a S2000 hard on the street. They are not as predictable as the Protege or easy to save if they get a little loose.
The average Joe would kill himself trying to overdrive an S2000 on curvy roads.
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Old June-5th-2003, 11:50 PM
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KpaBap, the Protege would never outhandle a S2000.

I once saw one take an offramp glued to the road at 2.5x the suggested limit with no roll and instability.

The S2000 was designed at the offset as sports car/roadster, and not a sporty economy car like the Protege. To say the Protege outhandles a S2000 is like saying a Pro outhandles the RX-8 and RX-7, which we know is impossible, stock for stock.

The Protege outhandles many cars in its class, and other cars in higher classes, with more sportier pretensions. But never hardcore sports cars.

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Old June-6th-2003, 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by leungwingkei
Sorry to burst your bubble, KpaBap, but the Protege would never outhandle a Protege.
Um
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Old June-6th-2003, 12:27 PM
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wtf is this all about?? all the cars mentioned are of different class, power, and price range... nothing to compare to... and throw them dead weight from you car.. ie: no passenger...
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Old June-6th-2003, 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by TheMAN
that's nice

moded vs stock = NO comparison

stock vs stock, the S2000 will never lose to a protege

Well why would you compare a 30K+ car to a 18K car stock for stock. The only fair way to do it would be compare the the cheaper vehicle with mods to the other stock. Hell I bet you could get a pro to out handle an s2000 for less than a stock s2000 costs.
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Old June-6th-2003, 07:02 PM
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IMO "stock for stock" our P5 outhandled our Focus, but it will never have anywhere near the amount of hp & tq that a turbo car will have. We have since upgraded the suspension on the Focus with springs, sway bars, strut bars, bushings, you name it and it corners like one scary beast!

Oh well, I'll just putt along in my 'mildly modified' slow and low P5 cuz it looks damn good...
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