jcilforever

I was able to solve the torque loss with a Tornado by mounting it into the the section of Injen pipe that is between the throttle body and the MAS, also added an AEM bypass to it because I do not want to suck any water. If any one can tell me how to post pics without a website let me know.

obender66

Better solution to torgue loss-take Tornado out and install it into garbage basket.
Alex

douggie

Well, part of your arguement is correct about Mazda has the experties about making best performance and ride comfort for our cars. But then you forgot that Mazda also has to work within a budget for every single part of the car to make their cars competitive in terms of pricing and of course for profit.

Now of course working within a budget does not necessary mean a sacrifice in the performance parts department, but then it does limit a lot of possibilities.

And yes some aftermarket stuff is purely hype and does not make any real performance gain as they claim in their commercials. Be a smart shopper and get info from users experience before adding stuff. That's what this board is for.

jcilforever

You are right Douggie,
This board is to help others and all they could do is dog me and not even help me post the pictures like I asked. If they saw the pictures maybe they would understand the application and maybe if they could drive the car they too would se the difference as I did test it with and without. Maybe the guy who tried it in his car put it before the MAS or in his tailpipe

StuttersC

I saw that article. What was really funny though was there was an ad in that same issue for the Tornado. The ad said it was tested by SCC in that issue. Classic!!

They get knocked hard core and they even promote in the ad.

jcilforever: As far as if it worked. Did you dyno the car with and without, or is that just your butt dyno??

And to answer your question, I don't think you can post pics directly to the board. You have to have them posted somewhere with an internet address and then link it into your post. But, that's just what I thought I read in the FAQ for the message board.

jcilforever

Just a butt dyno, I don't have enough mods on the car to warrant a dyno. The front wheels would break loose more without the Tornado, and the car was slugish around 1000-3000 RPM. After I added it to my CAI The wheels would still break loose but I had more pick up between 1 and 3.

StuttersC

This is purely my opinion but I would argue that the butt dyno was giving you the placebo effect. In other words, you wanted it to work and so it did.

I'm willing to follow what a published magazine said when they tested it, over individual usage. But, that's just me.

If you think it works great. Keep it. If it turns out that it doesn't really do anything, recycle it...

jmauld

The idea of the tornado is pretty neat. It supposedly creates a vortex inside the intake, as mentioned earlier. Now for those people who live in areas with a lot of tornadoes, you should know that a tornado is a vortex. In (around) a tornado there's an area of low pressure and an area of high pressure. That's the idea behind this vortex thing

"Theoretically" these pressure differences should help the engine suck in air. But that's only if the rest of the system is built around it to support the creation of a vortex. In which case, you simply can't stick one of these things into any old pipe and expect it to work, you would have to do lots and lots of calculations in order to know exactly where it should placed, and then it's only going to work at ONE spot on the rpm curve. Forget about the other 6499 spots. :-)

This product has been sold for a LONG time. The company will make all of these claims and eventually the government will shut them down for false advertisement, and they'll open another company under a different name and suck in a new generation of carguys into trying their product. Check out some old issues of Popular Science, it'll be in the ads section in the back. This should be an indication of whether this thing is worth buying or not.

Like someone else said, throw in the trash, or give it to the neighborhood cat to play with.

jcilforever

Just letting you know what has performed for me. I also would like to post pics. Who else has tried this, if soo feel free to respond.

jmauld

Exactly! That's why I said it would only work on one point on the rpm curve, even that's going to be dependent on the engine load.