FS-ZE install Misc Pics
March-6th-2002, 05:47 PM
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FS-ZE install Misc Pics
For those wanting to see some pictures of my ordeal with the FS-ZE, here ya go. Not much yet, but I am not finished! I took these today, and hope to take more tomorrow when I will hopefully pick up my ride!
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FS-ZE Misc Install Pics
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FS-ZE Misc Install Pics
March-7th-2002, 02:02 AM
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hey dude! are the intake manifold and throttle body different from our USDM (United States Domestic Market)spec cars? like is the Throttle body larger? are the ports in the intake manifold larger or longer? please get some specs cause we need them dude!!!
thats why hondas are easier to mod per se is, because, when people do stuff such as this, they also document the specs on almost everything. it does help.
like if we find out that the TB(throttle body) is the same as ours then, we are in some serious luck! as it wont affect the stock J-spec cams that some of us are putting in. and if the intake manifold is a truly different configuration (I.E. shorter runners for better high-rpm power) then well have to swap em' out. but if they just have bigger ports...well time to get mine ported!
i know its hard to do man with a busy schedule, but maybe the dudes that are doin' it for ya would document it if you asked? thanks, chris j. and email me when its done w/ pics bro!
thats why hondas are easier to mod per se is, because, when people do stuff such as this, they also document the specs on almost everything. it does help.
like if we find out that the TB(throttle body) is the same as ours then, we are in some serious luck! as it wont affect the stock J-spec cams that some of us are putting in. and if the intake manifold is a truly different configuration (I.E. shorter runners for better high-rpm power) then well have to swap em' out. but if they just have bigger ports...well time to get mine ported!
i know its hard to do man with a busy schedule, but maybe the dudes that are doin' it for ya would document it if you asked? thanks, chris j. and email me when its done w/ pics bro!
March-8th-2002, 04:55 AM
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Well everyone I picked up my car today. I must say it is definitely faster! Here is the play by play...
I went to the shop around 15:30 because they called and said that he was about to attempt to start it up. I got there, and he was finishing up. He fired it up, it turned over and then nothing. We attempted to see if there was even any spark. It was there, so we attempted again. It would turn over like crazy, but no start. He changed out the Crank Angle Sensor, and nothing. He finally looked at the Cam sensor, and it was damaged. The cam gears accually have been rubing the sensor. This was the case in both engines. The one that was the least screwed up was the one he went with. After this change the car started right up. During the test drive, the ECU had to relearn the car, but after that, it ran like a bat out of hell! It sounds nice to. One thing though is that the original Intake manifold had to be used becuase of the strut bar interfering with the JDM one. I will post more pictures tomorrow. More to follow.....
I went to the shop around 15:30 because they called and said that he was about to attempt to start it up. I got there, and he was finishing up. He fired it up, it turned over and then nothing. We attempted to see if there was even any spark. It was there, so we attempted again. It would turn over like crazy, but no start. He changed out the Crank Angle Sensor, and nothing. He finally looked at the Cam sensor, and it was damaged. The cam gears accually have been rubing the sensor. This was the case in both engines. The one that was the least screwed up was the one he went with. After this change the car started right up. During the test drive, the ECU had to relearn the car, but after that, it ran like a bat out of hell! It sounds nice to. One thing though is that the original Intake manifold had to be used becuase of the strut bar interfering with the JDM one. I will post more pictures tomorrow. More to follow.....
March-8th-2002, 02:43 PM
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succes
Hey glad to hear everything is ok. I know how it feels with the fs-ze in. I converted my fs-de into 11.9.1 FS-ze. It definately runs alot harder, had trouble at first starting it like you did. I disconected the batt and let it sit for an hour then reconected and let it idle for about an hour. Runs goooood but the idle is a little irratic due to the 11.9.1 pistons and jap cams. I believe we both need to invest in a haltec E6K to get our motors top notch. my car runs like a bat out of hell too but both of our cars could be running alot better due to the fact were using US spec ecus . Your MP3 actually has a better ecu than my P5. I would go with the man and install the jap intake mani. thats a good advantage you have over my motor, yet you have lower compression pistons than i do . I bet our cars run very even at the moment. we need new brains for the brawn weve installed . Im going with the haltec E6k i can get one for a little over 1000$ . I paid 400$ for the 11.9.1 pistons brand new from an ex probe owner he paid like 850$ for them and smashed his probe before he installed them . the cams came out to be about 450$. Thats only 850$ plus 1000$ for the E6k. Thats about 2000$ for a higher compression fs-ze with the ecu. Not bad if i say so myself. Peace out and happy ZOOOOOOM ZOOOOOOOMING
March-8th-2002, 10:02 PM
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Originally posted by TheMAN
How can the FS-ZE intake manifold interfere with the strut bar? The Sport20s use the same strut bar and the whole engine and strut bar fits under the engine with no problems! Get that intake manifold installed!!!
How can the FS-ZE intake manifold interfere with the strut bar? The Sport20s use the same strut bar and the whole engine and strut bar fits under the engine with no problems! Get that intake manifold installed!!!
March-10th-2002, 06:25 PM
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Re: succes
Interesting, where did the 11.9:1 pistons come from? The only high compression pistons I'm aware of for the FP/FS engines are the stock FS-ZE pistons at 10.5:1, and the MazdaSpeed pistons at 10.7:1. Do you own your own refinery? At 11.9:1 compression you defiantly aren't running on any pump gas available in the US.
Originally posted by boostedmp5
I know how it feels with the fs-ze in. I converted my fs-de into 11.9.1 FS-ze. Runs goooood but the idle is a little irratic due to the 11.9.1 pistons and jap cams. I would go with the man and install the jap intake mani. thats a good advantage you have over my motor, yet you have lower compression pistons than i do . I bet our cars run very even at the moment. I paid 400$ for the 11.9.1 pistons brand new from an ex probe owner he paid like 850$ for them and smashed his probe before he installed them .
I know how it feels with the fs-ze in. I converted my fs-de into 11.9.1 FS-ze. Runs goooood but the idle is a little irratic due to the 11.9.1 pistons and jap cams. I would go with the man and install the jap intake mani. thats a good advantage you have over my motor, yet you have lower compression pistons than i do . I bet our cars run very even at the moment. I paid 400$ for the 11.9.1 pistons brand new from an ex probe owner he paid like 850$ for them and smashed his probe before he installed them .
March-11th-2002, 04:21 PM
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around here there is a local gas station that a family friend runs that sells airplane fuel (atleast he says it is) that is 150 octane..... ive ran that in our caprice wagon with the newer 455c/i engine with 6speed a while back... boy does it make a diffrence! though its 5.50-7 dollars A GALLON!
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March-14th-2002, 04:14 PM
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most high octane fuel is actually leaded and must be moved by truck as the lead will eat away the teflon coating int he petrol pipes. and it will destroy a CAT and O2 sensor. but real unleaded race fuel is very hard and VERY expensive to make as well. i wonder what kind of fuel Shell makes for the Ferrari F1 cars? its a secret.
You can use a mixture of %30 toluene and %70 92 octane to achieve 98.6 octane by the R+M/2 method.
Many people live in areas that use an oxygenate called MTBE that is 118 octane but is used only in small amounts to boost octane in the pump by 1-2 full points. instead of 91 octane, you get 93. this is according to:
http://www.vtr.org/maintain/gasoline-octane.html
go visit it to see. its pretty cool.
You can use a mixture of %30 toluene and %70 92 octane to achieve 98.6 octane by the R+M/2 method.
Many people live in areas that use an oxygenate called MTBE that is 118 octane but is used only in small amounts to boost octane in the pump by 1-2 full points. instead of 91 octane, you get 93. this is according to:
http://www.vtr.org/maintain/gasoline-octane.html
go visit it to see. its pretty cool.
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March-14th-2002, 04:48 PM
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also i hope you get the FS-ZE ECU or at least a fuel controller soon cause you're probably running lean. and too lean is not good.
although, since youre still using the stock manifold, you might be cool if the stock unit doesn't flow as well as the J-spec unit. i would still get an Apex-i AFC for now. youll need it when you put than FS-ZE manifold on!
ps. make sure to use the injectors that came with the ZE motor. i hope i dont sound like a know-it-all. if so im sorry. just trying to help. ive seen stuff like this before in the honduh world.
although, since youre still using the stock manifold, you might be cool if the stock unit doesn't flow as well as the J-spec unit. i would still get an Apex-i AFC for now. youll need it when you put than FS-ZE manifold on!
ps. make sure to use the injectors that came with the ZE motor. i hope i dont sound like a know-it-all. if so im sorry. just trying to help. ive seen stuff like this before in the honduh world.
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