3rd gen Engine/Drivetrain Engine/Drivetrain Modification Discussions for 1999-2003 Models Only (BJ chassis)

Error Code P0720

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old September-11th-2022, 10:04 AM
  #1  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rcannon92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 4
rcannon92 is an unknown quantity at this point
Error Code P0720

Got a 2010 Mazda3 with 2.0L showing a Output Speed Sensor error that won’t go away. Seen to have tracked it down to be the Vehicle Speed Sensor that’s between the transmission and firewall. Has 3 wires going to it from the TCM that are Power, Ground, and Signal.

With KOEO:
Yellow wire (Power) shows battery positive backprobed.
Red wire (Signal) shows 3.6 Volts while backprobed and 3.6 Volts when unplugged from sensor.
Black shows 10 mV.

For continuity test with TCM plugged in I get OL with DMM lead on yellow and the other DMM lead on battery negative.
OL with DMM lead on signal at VSS connector and other DMM lead on battery negative.

Only thing that throws me off is when I shake the TCM connector the voltage I get at the Signal wire VSS connector fluctuates between 2V and 4.8V.

Shouldn’t the signal wire be showing 5 Volts? Any other tests I should perform before I buy a new TCM, as I am under the assumption it has a short to ground inside the TCM.

Last edited by rcannon92; September-11th-2022 at 10:15 AM.
rcannon92 is offline  
Old April-28th-2024, 11:02 AM
  #2  
Registered User
 
vremyaesti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 4
vremyaesti is an unknown quantity at this point
Having same issue here. TCM been replaced a year ago (pulled used from junk yard) due to different code and fixed a problem till now. Now p0720 popped up . Replaced out put sensor and oil in transmission, checked plug to out put speed sensor voltage seems to be normal, didn't find any damage on sensor harness. Any advise? I was thinking try to rebuild the module and update it or replace input sensor.
vremyaesti is offline  
Old April-28th-2024, 12:00 PM
  #3  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rcannon92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 4
rcannon92 is an unknown quantity at this point
I did fix the p0720 code, it was being thrown due to only getting 3V on the signal wire going to the VSS (output speed sensor) located on the backside of the transmission. Sent my TCM to Module Repair Pro through an eBay listing and all my problems were resolved.

EDIT: Did you check the voltage going to the OSS by back probing or with the sensor unplugged? You could be getting voltage drop through to much resistance in the TCM or the wires.

Last edited by rcannon92; April-28th-2024 at 12:07 PM.
rcannon92 is offline  
Old April-28th-2024, 01:39 PM
  #4  
Registered User
 
vremyaesti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 4
vremyaesti is an unknown quantity at this point
unplugged.
I also sent my OEM module for repair to services I found on ebay, pulled used one from junk yard while mine was getting fixed. Replaced with used everything worked fine for 1,5 years. Tried to replace it with refurbished recently and its way worse so had to put old one back. Wasted $300.

Can you sent me the name of the shop you used?

Thanks in advsnce.
vremyaesti is offline  
Old April-28th-2024, 02:52 PM
  #5  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rcannon92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 4
rcannon92 is an unknown quantity at this point
https://www.ebay.com/itm/33231210099...mis&media=COPY

That’s the service I used on eBay, you sure you replaced the output speed sensor and not the input speed sensor on your tranny tho right? If I remember correctly they’re the same exact sensor on the 2.0 and are interchangeable, may be a simple way to see if it’s just the sensor instead of the wiring/ TCM causing the problem.

You got exactly 5V off of one of your wires (signal) with it unplugged right?

Last edited by rcannon92; April-28th-2024 at 03:02 PM.
rcannon92 is offline  
Old April-30th-2024, 07:36 PM
  #6  
Registered User
 
vremyaesti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 4
vremyaesti is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by rcannon92
https://www.ebay.com/itm/33231210099...mis&media=COPY

That’s the service I used on eBay, you sure you replaced the output speed sensor and not the input speed sensor on your tranny tho right? If I remember correctly they’re the same exact sensor on the 2.0 and are interchangeable, may be a simple way to see if it’s just the sensor instead of the wiring/ TCM causing the problem.

You got exactly 5V off of one of your wires (signal) with it unplugged right?
Thanks for the link!
And yes, I replaced output (I have 2.5 but should be same as 2.0) located on differential behind metal cover. First I got aftermarket from ebay for $20 - nothing changed, then I got OEM for $260 - still nothing. 5V unplugged, yes.

Next step, I think, is to use ebay services again.

Thoughts?
vremyaesti is offline  
Old May-1st-2024, 07:39 AM
  #7  
Registered User
Thread Starter
 
rcannon92's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2022
Posts: 4
rcannon92 is an unknown quantity at this point
Honestly not too sure cause Id imagine that if the TCM is at fault you would at the very least have some strange multimeter readings as far as the 5V ref, power or ground to the OSS. Only thing that comes to mind is backprobing the sensor connector and testing for any resistance in the wires between the sensor connector and Tcm connector
rcannon92 is offline  
Old May-1st-2024, 06:17 PM
  #8  
Registered User
 
vremyaesti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 4
vremyaesti is an unknown quantity at this point
Originally Posted by rcannon92
Honestly not too sure cause Id imagine that if the TCM is at fault you would at the very least have some strange multimeter readings as far as the 5V ref, power or ground to the OSS. Only thing that comes to mind is backprobing the sensor connector and testing for any resistance in the wires between the sensor connector and Tcm connector
I'll do that. Thanks again!
vremyaesti is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
irasend
Mazda3/Mazdaspeed3
3
January-1st-2011 05:10 AM
snap-on
Mazda Service Info
1
February-21st-2006 10:37 PM
CarbonFiber
Mazda3/Mazdaspeed3
4
January-30th-2005 01:27 PM
Intruder
Exterior/Interior/Audio
47
July-29th-2003 11:28 PM
D323
1st Gen Protege/323/GLC
4
June-9th-2003 09:39 AM

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 


Quick Reply: Error Code P0720



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:46 PM.