E-manage
August-31st-2002, 12:19 AM
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E-manage
Well, it's here. I just got my e-manage today and will try to install it over the weekend. I'm going to read the instructions tonight to see how easy or hard it's going to be to hook up. I'll keep everyone posted as to what I think and tips on making the install simpler if I find any.
September-2nd-2002, 01:23 PM
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another fine GReddy product...
"e-Manage is an inexpensive programmable fuel management system that allows you to properly tune your factory fuel system, without having to change the entire factory ECU system to an expensive "stand-alone" unit. The e-Manage system is a universal "piggy-back" type unit, which taps into most factory ECU wiring and it still utilizes the existing sensors. Basic functions will allow the user to slightly alter factory injector duty-cycle(± 20% at 5 preset RPM points), by intercepting and altering airflow or MAP sensor signals. For VTEC cars you can adjust the VTEC shift point.
Additional features that are built into the system, but are only accessible though the use of our PC-Windows based "e-Manage Support Tool" communication software (Please see our Authorized GReddy Support Dealers for more information) are a 16x16 Airflow Adjustmemt Map, Larger Main Injector correction adjustment, Upgrade Air Flow Meter adjustment, Boost Limiter Cut, Anti-engine Stall, VTEC-fuel adjustment, Real-time Map Trace, Real-time Display, Real-time Communication, and basic Data-logging.
With the use of our "Optional Injector Harness" and the software, the unit has the ability to control an additional 16x16 Injector duty cycle Map and the Controls for adding up to 2 Addional Sub-injectors. If the "Optional Ignition Harrness" and the software is used the unit has the ability to control a 16x16 Ignition Timing Map. All of the above Maps can also be Map-traced in Real-time as well. If the factory range of Map or Airflow meter is surpassed, you can incorperate our "Optional GReddy Pressure Sensor and Pressue Harness" to set larger scales of ajustment"
"e-Manage is an inexpensive programmable fuel management system that allows you to properly tune your factory fuel system, without having to change the entire factory ECU system to an expensive "stand-alone" unit. The e-Manage system is a universal "piggy-back" type unit, which taps into most factory ECU wiring and it still utilizes the existing sensors. Basic functions will allow the user to slightly alter factory injector duty-cycle(± 20% at 5 preset RPM points), by intercepting and altering airflow or MAP sensor signals. For VTEC cars you can adjust the VTEC shift point.
Additional features that are built into the system, but are only accessible though the use of our PC-Windows based "e-Manage Support Tool" communication software (Please see our Authorized GReddy Support Dealers for more information) are a 16x16 Airflow Adjustmemt Map, Larger Main Injector correction adjustment, Upgrade Air Flow Meter adjustment, Boost Limiter Cut, Anti-engine Stall, VTEC-fuel adjustment, Real-time Map Trace, Real-time Display, Real-time Communication, and basic Data-logging.
With the use of our "Optional Injector Harness" and the software, the unit has the ability to control an additional 16x16 Injector duty cycle Map and the Controls for adding up to 2 Addional Sub-injectors. If the "Optional Ignition Harrness" and the software is used the unit has the ability to control a 16x16 Ignition Timing Map. All of the above Maps can also be Map-traced in Real-time as well. If the factory range of Map or Airflow meter is surpassed, you can incorperate our "Optional GReddy Pressure Sensor and Pressue Harness" to set larger scales of ajustment"
September-2nd-2002, 02:28 PM
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That about sums up what an E-manage is! Thanks!
I have both the optional injector harness and the ignition harness. Hookup is not going to be too hard, but I wouldn't recommend it for the inexperienced. Also, you will probably need to know what to hook everything up to. I've done a bit of research to find out what the pin out of the stock ECU is and have got it figured, but until I hook it up I won't know how it works. Ran into a bit of a snag this weekend when I found out that only on Mazdas do you need to use a limiting resistor on the MAF circuit. I didn't get one with the e-manage and won't be able to get hold of anyone until Tuesday to find out what the value is. Also, there are 3 rotary controls inside the e-manage that need to be set before hookup and the values are in hexidecimal and are different depending on which manufacturer and which engine you have. The only settings I could find are for the J-spec ECU and we have a different Ford style ECU.
I'll be calling Greddy to get the dial settings and the resistor values from them tomorrow hopefully. Then it gets installed and I'll start tuning.
I have both the optional injector harness and the ignition harness. Hookup is not going to be too hard, but I wouldn't recommend it for the inexperienced. Also, you will probably need to know what to hook everything up to. I've done a bit of research to find out what the pin out of the stock ECU is and have got it figured, but until I hook it up I won't know how it works. Ran into a bit of a snag this weekend when I found out that only on Mazdas do you need to use a limiting resistor on the MAF circuit. I didn't get one with the e-manage and won't be able to get hold of anyone until Tuesday to find out what the value is. Also, there are 3 rotary controls inside the e-manage that need to be set before hookup and the values are in hexidecimal and are different depending on which manufacturer and which engine you have. The only settings I could find are for the J-spec ECU and we have a different Ford style ECU.
I'll be calling Greddy to get the dial settings and the resistor values from them tomorrow hopefully. Then it gets installed and I'll start tuning.
September-2nd-2002, 09:47 PM
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The cheapest price I have found so far was $299 for the main unit, $35 for the injector harness, $38 for the ignition harness and $109 for the software. The same place also had the boost harness for $35 and the boost sensor for $99. I'll probably be getting those last two in a couple months when I start trying to build my supercharger setup. I'm going to tune it some normally aspirated first until I feel that I'm at the limits of the configuration, then I'm going to boost it and dial in ignition retard under boost only and add fuel with a couple additional injectors. The E-manage will control additional injectors as well as 150% of the stock injector size if you change them out.
That's why I decided to go with this system as it offers the most of the flexibility of a stand alone without compromising emissions or the signals that run the gauges. Our injectors are 225cc as I recall which means you can control up to 340cc injectors with the e-manage as well as 2 additional injectors. Also, it can manage changing throttle bodies or MAF meters. There are provisions in the software to make all those things work with the factory ECU. That's a whole lot of tuning capability for the money. WAY more than a Unichip can do and a good portion of what a stand alone can do without the compatibility issues.
That's why I decided to go with this system as it offers the most of the flexibility of a stand alone without compromising emissions or the signals that run the gauges. Our injectors are 225cc as I recall which means you can control up to 340cc injectors with the e-manage as well as 2 additional injectors. Also, it can manage changing throttle bodies or MAF meters. There are provisions in the software to make all those things work with the factory ECU. That's a whole lot of tuning capability for the money. WAY more than a Unichip can do and a good portion of what a stand alone can do without the compatibility issues.
September-6th-2002, 12:21 PM
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Good news is that I got hold of Greddy and they said to ignore the hook up drawing that came with the support tool set. We DO NOT need a limiting resistor on the MAF circuit. That was just for J-spec cars. Also, I have the rotary switch settings if anyone else decides to go this route.
September-6th-2002, 10:18 PM
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The first 3 rotary switch settings are 3, A, and 1. The next 5 are for the fuel settings for 2K, 3K, 4K, 5K, and 6K RPM. You won't use these if you get the injector and ignition harnesses and the support tool. The next 2 (hidden behind the front panel like the first 3) are for Vtec RPM point and fuel gain/cut when Vtec activates. We won't use them.
I'll be installing mine Monday as my schedule just changed this week and I have to work tomorrow. Sunday is the only day off my wife and I have together so it's taken! Now that I have the info from Greddy, I'm going to get this done. I'll let everyone know what I think of the install as well as if I feel a difference by adding more spark. If I have time, I'll take off the intake and look at it also.
I'll be installing mine Monday as my schedule just changed this week and I have to work tomorrow. Sunday is the only day off my wife and I have together so it's taken! Now that I have the info from Greddy, I'm going to get this done. I'll let everyone know what I think of the install as well as if I feel a difference by adding more spark. If I have time, I'll take off the intake and look at it also.
September-7th-2002, 11:04 PM
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I grabbed it from someone that had it on Ebay but didn't sell it. He had it on there for $500 to start, then went down to $450 a day before the auction was over. I contacted him a couple days after the auction and asked if he still had it. He did and said he'd sell it all for $400 shipped. I got the main unit, the injector harness, the ignition harness and the support tool. The only other thing I need is the boost sensor and harness when I finally go boosted.
I'd check around on the net. They are available direct from Greddy, (you'll pay about $625 for all the stuff I got) or several places that have them as low as $299 for the main unit, $120 for the software and cable, $40 each for the extra harnesses. Every now and then they show up on Ebay from private parties. There was one place that was selling the main unit only on Ebay for $280 buy it now. They only had the main units and only had a small number of them. Basically do a search on the net for 'Greddy e-manage' and see what you find.
I'd check around on the net. They are available direct from Greddy, (you'll pay about $625 for all the stuff I got) or several places that have them as low as $299 for the main unit, $120 for the software and cable, $40 each for the extra harnesses. Every now and then they show up on Ebay from private parties. There was one place that was selling the main unit only on Ebay for $280 buy it now. They only had the main units and only had a small number of them. Basically do a search on the net for 'Greddy e-manage' and see what you find.
September-9th-2002, 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by Traveler
I'll probably be getting those last two in a couple months when I start trying to build my supercharger setup. I'm going to tune it some normally aspirated first until I feel that I'm at the limits of the configuration, then I'm going to boost it and dial in ignition retard under boost only and add fuel with a couple additional injectors. The E-manage will control additional injectors as well as 150% of the stock injector size if you change them out.
I'll probably be getting those last two in a couple months when I start trying to build my supercharger setup. I'm going to tune it some normally aspirated first until I feel that I'm at the limits of the configuration, then I'm going to boost it and dial in ignition retard under boost only and add fuel with a couple additional injectors. The E-manage will control additional injectors as well as 150% of the stock injector size if you change them out.
I'm curious to see how this builds up, would a set of 4 hi-po fuel injectors work or do you feel that you need aux. injectors to fit the demand under boost.
How much boost are you looking to run?
September-13th-2002, 11:04 PM
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I sold the Emanage for the above mentioned reason. I also sold my Gtech. I'll probably get around to installing the supercharger later this fall or it might have to wait until spring. Will take that as it comes. I'm just going to run additional injectors with an SDS AIC unit. Won't have to change the pump or the stock injectors. I'm only going to push it to about 7 psi so should be somewhere around 185HP at the wheels or so. It's going to be at least a couple months though.