Rac3rX

You cant really, the only cam that is different for our cars is the J-Spec Mazdaspeed exhaust cam, & They dont make it anymore. Im not sure If thats what the thread starter did, but if he didnt, then he just swapped a cam in that was the exact same as what he took out.

You can eithor have blanks made into the same spec of the J-Spec Mazdaspeed Exhaust cam (I can give you all the required specs) OR you can use a Intake cam repinned as a exhaust cam, I dont know what it is exactly, I know its just short of 180.

mattsstang87

Oh not I didn't. The FS-DE exhaust cam is different from the Mazdaspeed FS-ZE exhaust cam (which had the same specs as the FS-ZE intake cam). Mine is a re-pinned FS-ZE exhaust cam, thus it has the same specs as the FS-ZE Mazdaspeed exhaust cam. The regular FS-ZE had the same exhaust cam as our engine. Trust me, I wouldn't install the same cam. As much as I hate to give him a plug, just look on the Protege FAQ for the info:

macdaddyslomo

Tell 'em Matt...Don't let some newb come in and school you, lol

mattsstang87

Was I too harsh? I am not new to this engine building thing. Just check out my other cars.

Rac3rX

Um schooled? I dont think so!

How about read post # 15

I asked because there have been some people who bought FSDET cams thinking they would be different on a FSDE. The simple question should tell you I know what Im talking about.

I Then say...

"the only cam that is different for our cars is the J-Spec Mazdaspeed exhaust cam" In reference to the exhaust cam.

& Then I say...
"you can use a Intake cam repinned as a exhaust cam"

We all know the FSZE intake cam is better then the FSDE, both can be re-pinned as Exhaust cams, the FSZE will be the better of the 2, both improvements to the FSDE/FSDET Intake cam.

Uhmmmm What did you do again? Ohh you had a FSZE intake cam repined as an Exhaust cam, go figure.

You can do the same thing with the intake cam from the FSDE, but it wont be as good as a repinned FSZE intake cam. The FSZE has better valve lift.


I know the specs, and I asked you if it was a FSZE Exhaust cam, so who are you schooling and on what??? YOu should of Just said, No I didnt get a FSZE Exhaust Cam, BUT I got a FSZE Intake with the same specs cam re-pinned as one.

So this would be identical to the Revised FSZE Exhaust cam. as the Original is not identical to the intake cam. 240.8° @ 0.003, instead of 241° @ 0.003 Exhaust cam duration, ect.

Ohh and you missed the Specs for the FSDET (American Mazdaspeed Turbo). Notice how the Exhaust cams are the same on all modles MINUS the FSZE MS Edition, and On the FSDE & FSDET Both Intake & Exhaust Cams are the exact same.

2.0 liter Turbo engine:
Type
FS-DET

Displacement
1991cc

Cylinders
4

Valvetrain
DOHC 16 valve, direct shim over tappet actuation, timing belt

Horsepower
170hp @ 6000r/min (SAE net)

Torque
160lbs/ft @ 4000r/min (SAE net)

Bore & Stroke
83mm x 92mm

Compression Ratio
9.1:1

Induction Type
Turbo

Redline
6500r/min

Alternator output
12V 80A

Ignition type
distributor-less coil pack

Fuel system
Multipoint EFI

Fuel injector rate
285ml/min

Manual Transmission type
G15M-R (w/LSD)

Valve Timing

Intake cam duration
230° @ 0.003"

Intake cam opening
2° BTDC

Intake cam closing
48° ABDC

Intake cam lobe height
43.700mm (1.7205")

Intake cam base circle
35.052mm (1.380")

Intake valve lift
8.6487mm (0.3405")

Exhaust cam duration
230° @ 0.003"

Exhaust cam opening
48° BBDC

Exhaust cam closing
2° ATDC

Exhaust cam lobe height
43.225mm (1.7018")

Exhaust cam base circle
35.052mm (1.380")

Exhaust valve lift
8.1737mm (0.3218")

Valve overlap
4°

Good to see you know what our talking about and didnt put in a placebo cam, however I too know what Im talking about, & need no schooling.

macdaddyslomo

calm down there dude.....

btw...listing FS-DET specs is rediculous....It's NOT a different engine....in fact the turbo system was installed AFTER the car made it to the states.

Rac3rX

No this is rediculous!!!!

Did you tell Mattsstang87 to calm down while attemting to "School" me? Nooo, but I shoud when schooling you. I dont think so.

When it's the 2 of you who didnt read back in the thread, Hell it doesnt even apear as if you read my post clearly at all, becaue the assumptions the 2 of you make are rediculous , and even aparent that it is NOT whats being said in my post.


Cary on with that.

Stop trying to "School" Everybody you consider a "newb", Me Im far from it even if Im not a Post *****, You shouldnt assume a first time poster a newb ever, as they may know more then you (Not saying I do, but......)

macdaddyslomo

first of all, I was joking.

second of all, I will NOT tolerate your language OR attitude

this is a warning....the second one will be a ban

macdaddyslomo

BTW....trust me, you DON'T

Rac3rX

Yeah yeah, its always that way. So was I. lol.

You shouldnt make assumptions I could be a tech from Mazda for all you know (Im not, but....)

Ohh & I never said I did.

mattsstang87

Dude seriously. The "Mazdaspeed" exhaust cam refers to the J-spec 178 (I think) hp (or was it just PS) NATURALLY ASPIRATED FS-ZE engine with 10.7:1 compression. Our American Mazdaspeed (FS-DET) was just an FS-DE engine the same as that in a regular 2.0 Protege/P5/MP3 with a different ECU and a low-boost turbo system. It has the same cams as every other FS-DE.

You were just confused it all. Remember, when we are talking about the Mazdaspeed exhaust cam we are talking about the J-spec N/A Mazdaspeed engine (Please read up on this!!!!). Just calm down. No one was attacking you anyway. As a matter of fact, you attacked first.

Rac3rX

Dude seriously you need some help, YOUR confused and lost. Your repeating what has already been displayed as common knowledge between myself and the persone who got the cam in the first place, how could you still be so far behind?

I was NEVER confused on anything! I ASKED if he got a J-spec MS Cam or an A-spec MS Cam, and if he got a J-spec is it the new or revised one. How am I confused, I wasnt with him when he bought it & he said " J-Spec intake and Mazdaspeed exhaust camshaft" THis would lead one to beleve hes talking about a issue after having the J-Spec Intake and he only says Mazdaspeed Exhaust cam, he doesnt specify if it was the J-Spec or A-Spec as he does with the Intake cam. So I asked. As I mentioned before some have actually grabbed an A-spec MS cam thinking it would make a difference. You need to go back and RE-READ post #15 over and over again untill maybe you will understand it.

Your lost, or just a lost cause.

macdaddyslomo

I warned you about your language...maybe you'll come back with a better attitude

mattsstang87

Sorry about this guys, but when he basicly said that I was stupid and put a stock cam back in, I had to straighten him out. I never attacked him though.

kargoboy

It's ok, Matt, you should know by now that he acts like this over at msprotege, too.
They are just more tolerant of idiots over there.