50 Hp?
February-7th-2003, 04:47 PM
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ES, that may do the trick ~50HP at the flywheel, but not sure about WHP? 2.0L from my old Probe experience doesn't take well to mods, but N2o never fails right? 
Phantom...sent you a PM
Phantom...sent you a PM
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February-7th-2003, 07:51 PM
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try www.dgmotorsports.com , i think i remember them having them on their site. its worth a shot.
February-7th-2003, 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by mtbfreak40
my guess would be about 20-25 hp from port/polish and cams. the cams are advertised to give like 10 to 12 hp each, and that number is way overstated. maybe 10 from both, but thats about it. so its your money, 1600 for the parts you listed is over half way to the turbo. if it were my money and my car id just wait a little and go for the big gains.
my guess would be about 20-25 hp from port/polish and cams. the cams are advertised to give like 10 to 12 hp each, and that number is way overstated. maybe 10 from both, but thats about it. so its your money, 1600 for the parts you listed is over half way to the turbo. if it were my money and my car id just wait a little and go for the big gains.
February-8th-2003, 02:13 AM
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1600 is approx how much it'll cost me in canadian dollars, a stage 1 spool turbo kit is 4200 CAD, a difference of 2600CAD or another
1600 US
thanks for the info, I've got alot of studying to do while I save up money, do i want "go" now? or will I wait...
oh, is corksport the only place to purchase the i/e cams?
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February-8th-2003, 07:15 PM
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www.srmotorsports.com has the camshafts.
February-8th-2003, 08:10 PM
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If you add 50bhp you basically get 50whp as well, the gearbox eats a certain percentage of the bhp. Say most 2.0 pro's make around 100whp with a claimed 130bhp. Phantom Cruiser's N/A pro5 makes about 121whp, so about 151bhp. You loose around 15% of the bhp through the drivetrain...
If you are looking for mostly power than torque, your best bet for 50hp would be to remain N/A. Cams, intake, good breathing exhaust (Team Moon maybe), Header, maybe port and polish if done right, and high compression pistons. This accompanyied with a piggyback systems such as an e-manage would yeild good gains for less than a low pressure turbo setup... My main point about all this is you don't need the change all at ounce. These can be done when ever you feel like it in any order more or less (get the ECU upgrade before the high compression pistons). You can get the cams, then later get an exhuast and an intake or whatever. A turbo you basically have to spend the moneyall at once would be a serious investment...
If you are looking for mostly power than torque, your best bet for 50hp would be to remain N/A. Cams, intake, good breathing exhaust (Team Moon maybe), Header, maybe port and polish if done right, and high compression pistons. This accompanyied with a piggyback systems such as an e-manage would yeild good gains for less than a low pressure turbo setup... My main point about all this is you don't need the change all at ounce. These can be done when ever you feel like it in any order more or less (get the ECU upgrade before the high compression pistons). You can get the cams, then later get an exhuast and an intake or whatever. A turbo you basically have to spend the moneyall at once would be a serious investment...
February-9th-2003, 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by Installshield
If you add 50bhp you basically get 50whp as well, the gearbox eats a certain percentage of the bhp. Say most 2.0 pro's make around 100whp with a claimed 130bhp. Phantom Cruiser's N/A pro5 makes about 121whp, so about 151bhp. You loose around 15% of the bhp through the drivetrain...
If you are looking for mostly power than torque, your best bet for 50hp would be to remain N/A. Cams, intake, good breathing exhaust (Team Moon maybe), Header, maybe port and polish if done right, and high compression pistons. This accompanyied with a piggyback systems such as an e-manage would yeild good gains for less than a low pressure turbo setup... My main point about all this is you don't need the change all at ounce. These can be done when ever you feel like it in any order more or less (get the ECU upgrade before the high compression pistons). You can get the cams, then later get an exhuast and an intake or whatever. A turbo you basically have to spend the moneyall at once would be a serious investment...
If you add 50bhp you basically get 50whp as well, the gearbox eats a certain percentage of the bhp. Say most 2.0 pro's make around 100whp with a claimed 130bhp. Phantom Cruiser's N/A pro5 makes about 121whp, so about 151bhp. You loose around 15% of the bhp through the drivetrain...
If you are looking for mostly power than torque, your best bet for 50hp would be to remain N/A. Cams, intake, good breathing exhaust (Team Moon maybe), Header, maybe port and polish if done right, and high compression pistons. This accompanyied with a piggyback systems such as an e-manage would yeild good gains for less than a low pressure turbo setup... My main point about all this is you don't need the change all at ounce. These can be done when ever you feel like it in any order more or less (get the ECU upgrade before the high compression pistons). You can get the cams, then later get an exhuast and an intake or whatever. A turbo you basically have to spend the moneyall at once would be a serious investment...
Originally posted by pingdum
$21K? Why didn't you just go for the MSP?
$21K? Why didn't you just go for the MSP?
not bad for a loaded ES with GT package
February-9th-2003, 03:26 AM
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Lots of info on this board on an E-manage. Run a search. It looks a little misleading at first because the main unit is around $350 but you need a couple hundred dollars worth of harness',software, etc. It will be the most expensive investment for doing some moderate N/A tuning, especially if you do all the engine work on your own. So the most expensive part spent all at once will be around $700, which is expensive, but more manageable it seems for most of us than the full turbo.