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MazdaMadness May-19th-2003 03:37 PM

Need proof! please help
 
one guy i know just dont belive that an escort has anything to do with protege, and he says that protege is made by escorts which is impossible because escorts are newer than proteges (correct me if im wrong). so, pelase, tell me the url or something where i can show him that ESCORTS ARE JUST UGLY PROTEGES WITH CRAPIER SUSPENSION!!!!!! whose signature is that?

itzkcatz May-19th-2003 05:26 PM

The early 90s escort GT's (92-96 i think???) are pretty much a 90-94 lx protege. But i think the EGT has a higher geared transmission.. Not sure about the suspension

kcbhiw May-19th-2003 07:17 PM

The 91-02 Escorts (ZX2 included) shared the 1st Gen Protege's BG chassis. As previously stated, the 91-96 Escort GT used the same Mazda 1.8L BP engine found in the Protege LX. The suspension and related components are directly interchangable between both the Protege and Escort.

RX7_2ner May-19th-2003 08:32 PM

The GT and Protege LX had same suspension. The only difference was the size of the anti-roll bars. I'm not sure about the DX and the other Escorts. I do know that the Escort LX is the worst handler out of all of them, it did the worse on the skidpad.

Identity_X May-19th-2003 09:00 PM

The suspension components might be the same but does that mean that they perform the same way? I am pretty sure that there is some weight difference between the Pro and the Escort. There have to be other factors as well that affect how the car handles. The Escort is a totally differently designed car besides the motor and suspension components....

Felix Wankel May-19th-2003 09:04 PM


Originally posted by Identity_X
The suspension components might be the same but does that mean that they perform the same way? I am pretty sure that there is some weight difference between the Pro and the Escort. There have to be other factors as well that affect how the car handles. The Escort is a totally differently designed car besides the motor and suspension components....
Go look at a 4 door Escort sedan and then a Protege, then say they are totally different.

Identity_X May-19th-2003 09:40 PM


Originally posted by Felix Wankel
Go look at a 4 door Escort sedan and then a Protege, then say they are totally different.
I happen to own a Protege and I've seen many 4 door Escorts (mostly at the junkyard;) ) They are different.

UCSBgeek May-19th-2003 10:28 PM


Originally posted by Identity_X


I happen to own a Protege and I've seen many 4 door Escorts (mostly at the junkyard;) ) They are different.

not that much if you're talking about the chassis. it's rare to find the 4-doors with a BP and LX suspension though (LXe?) correct me if I'm wrong.

Felix Wankel May-19th-2003 11:10 PM


Originally posted by Identity_X


I happen to own a Protege and I've seen many 4 door Escorts (mostly at the junkyard;) ) They are different.

The sheetmetal may be different, but its the same body structure. If you can't look at them and see it then I don't know what to tell you.

http://ebay2.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...d3cde1/i-1.JPG
http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_...0dcb8a/i-1.JPG

Identity_X May-19th-2003 11:29 PM

After looking at the pics for 5 minutes I'd say that you are right and I am wrong. I apologize for being so sure, but I will blame it on the 2 door Escorts:D
Still though, you cannot say that it is the same car. That's what I had in mind in my initial post.

SlopPerformance May-19th-2003 11:35 PM

my buddy had a crazy escort, subaru RS font bumper, all kinds of other stuff too, it was cool but its no Pro. i dunno i cant really get into the ford deal.

Felix Wankel May-20th-2003 12:32 AM


Originally posted by Identity_X
After looking at the pics for 5 minutes I'd say that you are right and I am wrong. I apologize for being so sure, but I will blame it on the 2 door Escorts:D
Still though, you cannot say that it is the same car. That's what I had in mind in my initial post.

I call them distant cousins.

I think the 323 is the same car as a Mercury Tracer, but I haven't checked it out closer, becasue I really don't care.

DeaDLy93PRoTeGe May-20th-2003 02:06 AM

Let's just leave it at this........

FORD SUCKS, NO ONE GIVES 2 SHITS IF THEY OWN 35% OF MAZDA. THEY ALWAYS TAKE THE MAZDA STYLE.

in other words, FUCK FORD.


See how easy that was?

demoninvictus May-20th-2003 02:07 AM

why is everyone so proud of this fact? yes, certain things are interchangeable, the designers for the escort were from mazda for christsake. for every 2 door escort out there, i can tell you, they are peices of shit, my grandfather thought it a fitting idea to get both one of my aunts and one of my uncles ford escort, 2 door hatches, and they constantly had problems, combined, they totalled 150,000 miles between the two cars before they were both junked. it wasn't the design mazda had for the escort that was bad, it was the fuckin ford motors ford decided to throw in. my entire post is excluding the EGT. somebody, anybody correct me if i'm wrong??
peace

ne3ek May-20th-2003 06:32 AM

Jesus H Christ...

I can't understand how you guys can hate the escort so much when it's the same damn car.

Yes, the 1.9 sucks. The EGT, totally different car, why even discuss the Lxs/ponies ?

EGT is a lighter car (by about 100lbs) I have yet to drive a pro LX, but they feel very relative (itxcatz gave me a ride on a windy ro ad, rooods).

Thought I'd mention my 93 has 200k and runs mint ;)


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