Need proof! please help
 

one guy i know just dont belive that an escort has anything to do with protege, and he says that protege is made by escorts which is impossible because escorts are newer than proteges (correct me if im wrong). so, pelase, tell me the url or something where i can show him that ESCORTS ARE JUST UGLY PROTEGES WITH CRAPIER SUSPENSION!!!!!! whose signature is that?

The early 90s escort GT's (92-96 i think???) are pretty much a 90-94 lx protege. But i think the EGT has a higher geared transmission.. Not sure about the suspension

The 91-02 Escorts (ZX2 included) shared the 1st Gen Protege's BG chassis. As previously stated, the 91-96 Escort GT used the same Mazda 1.8L BP engine found in the Protege LX. The suspension and related components are directly interchangable between both the Protege and Escort.

The GT and Protege LX had same suspension. The only difference was the size of the anti-roll bars. I'm not sure about the DX and the other Escorts. I do know that the Escort LX is the worst handler out of all of them, it did the worse on the skidpad.

The suspension components might be the same but does that mean that they perform the same way? I am pretty sure that there is some weight difference between the Pro and the Escort. There have to be other factors as well that affect how the car handles. The Escort is a totally differently designed car besides the motor and suspension components....

Go look at a 4 door Escort sedan and then a Protege, then say they are totally different.

I happen to own a Protege and I've seen many 4 door Escorts (mostly at the junkyard;) ) They are different.

not that much if you're talking about the chassis. it's rare to find the 4-doors with a BP and LX suspension though (LXe?) correct me if I'm wrong.

The sheetmetal may be different, but its the same body structure. If you can't look at them and see it then I don't know what to tell you.

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After looking at the pics for 5 minutes I'd say that you are right and I am wrong. I apologize for being so sure, but I will blame it on the 2 door Escorts:D
Still though, you cannot say that it is the same car. That's what I had in mind in my initial post.

my buddy had a crazy escort, subaru RS font bumper, all kinds of other stuff too, it was cool but its no Pro. i dunno i cant really get into the ford deal.

I call them distant cousins.

I think the 323 is the same car as a Mercury Tracer, but I haven't checked it out closer, becasue I really don't care.

Let's just leave it at this........

FORD SUCKS, NO ONE GIVES 2 SHITS IF THEY OWN 35% OF MAZDA. THEY ALWAYS TAKE THE MAZDA STYLE.

in other words, FUCK FORD.


See how easy that was?

why is everyone so proud of this fact? yes, certain things are interchangeable, the designers for the escort were from mazda for christsake. for every 2 door escort out there, i can tell you, they are peices of shit, my grandfather thought it a fitting idea to get both one of my aunts and one of my uncles ford escort, 2 door hatches, and they constantly had problems, combined, they totalled 150,000 miles between the two cars before they were both junked. it wasn't the design mazda had for the escort that was bad, it was the fuckin ford motors ford decided to throw in. my entire post is excluding the EGT. somebody, anybody correct me if i'm wrong??
peace

Jesus H Christ...

I can't understand how you guys can hate the escort so much when it's the same damn car.

Yes, the 1.9 sucks. The EGT, totally different car, why even discuss the Lxs/ponies ?

EGT is a lighter car (by about 100lbs) I have yet to drive a pro LX, but they feel very relative (itxcatz gave me a ride on a windy ro ad, rooods).

Thought I'd mention my 93 has 200k and runs mint ;)

about which year of production of escort are we acctually talking about. i posted this thread to find out is the pro related to escorts from 1992-94???!!!

i got a escort lx and a escort GT and the gt is a all around better car but the lx is not bad too. the lx got a good engine but is not made for performance.i made ~75000km with the lx and my sister did ~75000km too and we didn't have any problem with it.

don't come to say that the escort is just a peice of shit becose the 1gen pro and the 91 and up is the same car:rolleyes:

if you look in the door at the manufacture plate or what ever you call it some say made by mazda for the ford motor co

I believe the 2nd gen Escort GT's are 91-96.

Our cars came with different sized anti-sway bars and other crap. I'm not saying only the escort came with crappy suspension, the protege suspension is also crappy. Then again, I'm used to driving a turbo supra and a few rx-7s.

Want a cookie?:rolleyes:

Do I want a cookie because I think our suspension is crap? That's what my whole post was about, so that must be what you meant.

c'mon dude your in the protege forum talking about how they don't handle that good, compared to the turbo supras and rx7s you drive.. !?

Are you trying to impress us ? Dude your drving a 2nd gen rx7.. it's not a Saleen S7, please don't compare them to our cars.

Was your car built to take you to work and back weekly, and still have enough gas to hang out ? Is your car great in snow ? I dun think so, but them again I'm comparing it to the escorts im used to driving....

dude I don't have a probelm with you, but you say some pretty stupid shit :/

I do say a bunch of shit, like the BP being a great engine. Why would I want to impress you guys? If I wanted to impress you, I would just throw on a 50 shot of nitrous and an aluminum wing. I was just saying what the pro and scort were like compared to the cars that I normally drive. To make you guys happy, I won't say the truth anymore. ;)

an aluminum wing wouldn't impress us. We'd just laugh at your rice mobile.:laugh: :wackit: Listen up slapnutz.

Well, I've owned my fair share of RX-7's, and my Protege impressed me for what it is. I wouldn't call it crap. Its better than my mother's Kia Optima.

Maybe if my car had 2 subs and an amp, which made the car run 17's because of the weight. That might impress you.

Cat fight! Who the F$#K cares. Are you guys married? It sounds like it.:headshot:

My 93 lx protege handles like a dream. I think for how much the car cost new and what options it had its a great car. My roomates Del sol sold for 18,500 new in 93 my 93 protege LX with more options better motor cost like 11 grand new. I agree it needs some suspension upgrades but dont compare it to a supra compare it to cars in its class (corolla,civic,accord, sentra) ..Jon

flame bait?
 

I think this whole post was some rather incendiary flamebait.

But, the 90-94 Protege does have the same chassis as the 91-02 Escort.

The bodywork might be slightly different, and the interior may have different trim, but they're basically twins. Sure, the Escort had the hatchback, which shaved a few pounds from the protege. Sure, the 1.9L engine in the ELX isn't as peppy as the 1.8L. It's also only SOHC. so, pretty much the difference between the 1.8L sohc and dohc engines, right?

I've got the 1.9 in my LX Wagon, and the car's more than a few pounds heavier than other 'equivalent' cars in my class for autocrossing, but being my first year of it, I feel pretty good that I can match times with the likes of Triumph Spitfires and MG MGB's and VW Golfs... I attribute that mostly to the suspension (not crappy at all, it's very balanced and fits the capabilities of these engines marvelously) and to a bit of driving skill.

But hey, for being inexpensive economical cars, you really can't beat the dependability of them. I'd almost bet money on the fact that for every single 'bad' escort that folks have had (possibly due to neglect/improper maintenance and hard driving) you will find 20 of them that have had no problems at all. mine's got nearly 160,000 miles on it, and I beat on the thing mercilessly at autocrosses, but still it keeps going.... and nicely, too, I might add....

as far as the Escort goes, it's been in production since the early 60's (in europe) and has taken home more than it's fair share of international Rally trophies..... now if only they'd sell the cool versions here in the states....

-sarge

jesus, lately it seems that anything RX7_2nr says there is always someone to dissagree with him *lol* but hey, he does have a point, our cars don't have the best suspensions, and they really arent the nicest looking things out there one the road (especially mine). regardless though, in the end we are all driving glorified grocery-getters

The ugliness of our cars makes it better when we beat ricey civics, accords, cavaliers, etc.

the two escorts i was referring to previously were FORD motors! any late 80's to early 90's fords with ford built engines are bound to get ridicule. some rangers and alot of f150's last a lifetime, i mean, my old job, we drove an 89 ford f-150 and last i heard, clipsed over 300,000 miles on the original engine. ford is a mixed blessing to say the least. look at it this way, who owns who now?
peace

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