KL vs 1.8
#1
KL vs 1.8
I have almost come to the decision of doing KL Motor swap for my DOHC 1.8. I was wondering about a couple of thing before committing.
One of the things I liked about the DOHC 1.8 in my GT is that I can be fairly aggressive
with the pedal and not really feel it too hard at the pump. Does anyone know what kind of mileage I could expect after the swap?
Additionally, I have been very pleased with the solid reliability of the DOHC motor. Does the KL have the same reliability as the BPD motor? ( I heard in a couple of google threads of people complaining about a bad valve design?).
Lastly, Is the weight/power difference significant enought to change the handling characteristics of the car?
Thanks in advance
Rick
90 GT
One of the things I liked about the DOHC 1.8 in my GT is that I can be fairly aggressive
with the pedal and not really feel it too hard at the pump. Does anyone know what kind of mileage I could expect after the swap?
Additionally, I have been very pleased with the solid reliability of the DOHC motor. Does the KL have the same reliability as the BPD motor? ( I heard in a couple of google threads of people complaining about a bad valve design?).
Lastly, Is the weight/power difference significant enought to change the handling characteristics of the car?
Thanks in advance
Rick
90 GT
#2
weight difference is not much more for the aluminum V6.
i would expect reliability to be as good as the BP.
If you stomp on it, you will pay...but the V6 is pretty good on gas.
Personally, i just add more when it's empty i don't pay much attention to MPG...
I thought about it a while ago, but ex'd it due to racing class change, but it would be a FUN swap.
i would expect reliability to be as good as the BP.
If you stomp on it, you will pay...but the V6 is pretty good on gas.
Personally, i just add more when it's empty i don't pay much attention to MPG...
I thought about it a while ago, but ex'd it due to racing class change, but it would be a FUN swap.
#3
Originally posted by mazdaspeedwest
weight difference is not much more for the aluminum V6.
i would expect reliability to be as good as the BP.
If you stomp on it, you will pay...but the V6 is pretty good on gas.
Personally, i just add more when it's empty i don't pay much attention to MPG...
I thought about it a while ago, but ex'd it due to racing class change, but it would be a FUN swap.
weight difference is not much more for the aluminum V6.
i would expect reliability to be as good as the BP.
If you stomp on it, you will pay...but the V6 is pretty good on gas.
Personally, i just add more when it's empty i don't pay much attention to MPG...
I thought about it a while ago, but ex'd it due to racing class change, but it would be a FUN swap.
#4
Where can I find out about custom spring rates?
Seeing as the suspension will be coming with the swap will there be alot of tweeking in regards to the suspension in order to achive a similar/better handling car?
Seeing as the suspension will be coming with the swap will there be alot of tweeking in regards to the suspension in order to achive a similar/better handling car?
#6
With regards to replacing the suspension from the donor MX-6, does anyone know if the MX-6 CV axels mate up to my protege hubs?
I would really like to keep as "stock" an appearance to the car if possible.
I would really like to keep as "stock" an appearance to the car if possible.
#7
Originally posted by rkives
With regards to replacing the suspension from the donor MX-6, does anyone know if the MX-6 CV axels mate up to my protege hubs?
I would really like to keep as "stock" an appearance to the car if possible.
With regards to replacing the suspension from the donor MX-6, does anyone know if the MX-6 CV axels mate up to my protege hubs?
I would really like to keep as "stock" an appearance to the car if possible.
#8
When the swap occurs, I was wondering about the stock dashboard. Specifically, the tach? Having those 2 extra cylinders, does anyone know if I will need to recalibrate(and how?) or even if I can use the MX-6 tach in my cluster?
Rick
Rick
#9
If you just swap in the MX-3 GS cluster, you'll be fine. You get a 8k tach and 150mph speed too
Use the MX-3 hubs and axles and you can use Protege struts, wheels, and springs.
You'll need a KL, V6 tranny, MX-3 GS crossmembers and engine mounts [might be able to use the Pro's, but I'm not sure], MX-3 axles, KL wiring harness from 92-95 [assuming you want OBD1]
Use the MX-3 hubs and axles and you can use Protege struts, wheels, and springs.
You'll need a KL, V6 tranny, MX-3 GS crossmembers and engine mounts [might be able to use the Pro's, but I'm not sure], MX-3 axles, KL wiring harness from 92-95 [assuming you want OBD1]
#10
Originally posted by mazdaspeedwest
I thought about it a while ago, but ex'd it due to racing class change, but it would be a FUN swap.
I thought about it a while ago, but ex'd it due to racing class change, but it would be a FUN swap.
#11
He -has- the BPT, but he hasn't put it in yet. He's running in STS right now.
On a side note, how come you recommend using the MX-3 hubs?
Just curious... Not that I'm going to be doing a V6 swap anytime soon.
On a side note, how come you recommend using the MX-3 hubs?
Just curious... Not that I'm going to be doing a V6 swap anytime soon.
#12
Originally posted by zenilder
On a side note, how come you recommend using the MX-3 hubs?
On a side note, how come you recommend using the MX-3 hubs?
#13
Originally posted by zenilder
He -has- the BPT, but he hasn't put it in yet. He's running in STS right now.
On a side note, how come you recommend using the MX-3 hubs?
Just curious... Not that I'm going to be doing a V6 swap anytime soon.
He -has- the BPT, but he hasn't put it in yet. He's running in STS right now.
On a side note, how come you recommend using the MX-3 hubs?
Just curious... Not that I'm going to be doing a V6 swap anytime soon.
#14
Originally posted by PseudoRealityX
I dont believe the difference is that great, so getting something like possibly about 25 or 50 lb lighter springs infront would help balance it to achieve better balance.
Once you do that....the normal things should be the same...give or take.
I dont believe the difference is that great, so getting something like possibly about 25 or 50 lb lighter springs infront would help balance it to achieve better balance.
Once you do that....the normal things should be the same...give or take.
#15
Originally posted by mazdaspeedwest
actually, i have all the bolt on to my N/A stuff, not the complete engine...but new avenues have opened and a complete swap is what i am leaning towards now...the questions remains though...4 or 6...
actually, i have all the bolt on to my N/A stuff, not the complete engine...but new avenues have opened and a complete swap is what i am leaning towards now...the questions remains though...4 or 6...
Later on.