no mine are knockoffs from Exel

but they are 100% replicas, seriously. They even have "Kreuzer Series V" cast into the back of the spokes.. and yes, cast.. Advans are cast.. and the 17x7 is under 14.5 pounds :) it's a crazy casting process

edit: here are mine
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/116/2...ae0c72a8_o.jpg

can't wait to see them on your car! :D

Dude .. they're JUST like yours!!

I hope they're as light too :)

Looks like you'll need tuner lugs if you don't already have them.

The best part about the wheels, which you'll soon find out, is that they look bigger than they really are. Even with my car parked DIRECTLY next to Protege5s with 18s, mine often look bigger :P Having the polished part behind the spokes makes it look larger I think.

Give me more details on those lugs. Link to a product example?

kinda like this set from McGard (oem lug nut supplier)

http://mcgard.com/prod_imgs/black_kit.jpg
http://mcgard.com/prod_imgs/black_kit_B.jpg

they come in black chrome (pictured), chrome, chrome with red cap, blue cap, gold cap

the kit comes like this:
http://www.pdm-racing.com/products/imag/mcgard/box2.jpg

at the bottom of this page: http://mcgard.com/search/default.asp...avID=1&NavID=8

i have those on my car, and honestly, im not a big fan of them... i tihnk i might go out and buy a set of Ray's nuts (JDM, FTW!)
sure they're expensive ($160/set), but they're top of the line.
hmm.. i wonder if i can find a cheap set on ebay.....

That's not a bad price, the full mcgard set (as pictured.. 4 lugs per wheel, one lock per wheel, chrome valve stems, and the tools for the lugs/locks) is around $110 I think.

I don't have the spliine drive ones, I have the ones that use a 3/4" drive (metric lugs though) but it only barely fits. With the universal lug pattern like picture in the first post, I don't think they'd fit.

I know stock ones wouldn't fit at all. I'd love some black lugs but the center caps are chrome
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Whoa guys!! $100+ for just damned lug nuts?!? That's insane .. NO WAI will I pay that much damn money for that shit.

Um that's how much it costs unless you want to trust like pep boys crap

this is for a set of lug nuts AND locks we're talking about. A wheel lock set alone is like 45-50 dollars.

Guess I'm outta the loop here .. seems a bit much at this point. I'll see what I can come up with to save some moolah here.

I just bought totally normal mcgard lug nuts and lock set and it was about that much money.

the price I found was for the black chrome ones.. lemme see what I can find

$79.99 from JEGS http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...1_753340_11715

and again that's lugs, locks, and sorta random but whatever chrome valve stems. it is sold as an 'aftermarket wheel installation kit'. that way you won't have to pay for valve stems when you get the tires mounted (they're cheap either way)

I've never understood lugnut prices... it makes no sense to me.

My 17's run a very similar lugnut set (it may actually be McGard) as posted above. You will need them for those rims, regular lugs wont fit.

Well, at least not in mine they wont.

There's gotta be somethin wrong with these since they're so cheap.
http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store..._396573?CT=999

What am I missin?! Is it the 12mm x 1.5??

I think that price is.. for 5 of them, not 20 like we need

lovin the new avatar btw, looks nice

i.e. the 12 dollars you save just getting four of those packs means you'll have no wheel locks and have to pay for valve stems when you get tires mounted.

I can get valve stems for free all I want, cuz a good friend of mine works at a tire shop. I just take my tires to him and he mounts, balances, etc. all of my stuff for free. I'm gonna check with him today and see what kind of lugs he can hook me up with too.

Thanks d00d ;)