Spikes-5

I can see beating a z24
the old ones were 24 v 3.0 v6
the new ones are a 16 v 2.4 l in line 4
gm just got cheep and put the z24 sticker on there
refering to the 2.4 l engine

nightowl

the new Z-24 is 150Hp and the Z-22 is 120 HP.....the Z-24 will prob give the protege a run for its money, but there handling is **** and they are alot heavier!

reefruner5

um....hasnt the Z-24 always been 150 hp, i almost bought one and it was its 150 hp that i wanted

Spikes-5

sure 150 hp
but its still a heavy engine
I mean there huge compared to a 2 liter
plus I just read in a mag that the nissan sentra v-spec
is over rated its accually 145 hp not 175
and its a 2.4 liter
so chances are that the caliver is a bit over rated to
that just my opinon
My friends girl has an echo and kills cavilers all the time
(she hates themhaha)

BoostedPro

I gotta agree with Wil on this one. 150hp from a 2.4 isn't impressive. Hell, the 2.2L SOHC 4 in my 91 Accord puts out 130hp stock. I'll give the american comanies credit for their V-8's and some V-6's, but they kinda suck at making 4 cylinders (except neons)

JustinMP3

What are you talking about a neon (R/T) is slower than a cav. Z24 and I think both are pathetic, But so is my spelling

Makaveli

My friend's got one and it's very unimpressive when it comes to the inside. Seems like they fastened everything halfway....

His is automatic, and it's faster then my protege, but not by a whole lot. He had two extra people in his car and I was pulling away steadily from him. So if you take out your backseats and put a couple of 45 pound plates in his trunk when he's not looking, you'll beat a Z24

99proES

i test drove one of those. I went up to a car dealer and there were three cars i liked. The Z24, Cougar(V6), and Pro ES. I chose the Z24 and had that thing for the weekend and it was fast. I had three passengers and was goin fasssst. The cougar was fast too but the Z24 was $4000 dollars cheaper. But my insurance company basically told me i couldn't have either. ($1600/6 months for the Z24 and $1750 for the Cougar.) But i still kinda wish i got the Z24. They are fast (not to mention easier to find aftermarket prices for).

gi_jason82

The interiors on those things look chintzy compared to the Pro's, and I've had bad experience with GM products in the past, so I'm not touching the Crapalier with a ten foot pole.

gi_jason82

I'd rather have a slow car that starts up every day than a fast car that I have to replace the alternator one month, then the cat, then the starter a week later...as the story was with my 1989 Grand Prix.

Installshield

I have a friend that drives a 94 3.1L V6 Cavalier and it is slow as dirt (has one of those 4 speed gearboxes filled with mayonaise a.ka. Automatic). He says it has 140HP with a good bit of torque but i quit listening after the 140 part. If chevy made a 3.1 V6 engine with less power than a 1.6L Honda engine than I am going to **** my pants. That is ridiculous! Why the hell does america lose so severely in the auto industry? and don't tell me Ford owns Mazda. Mazda just makes money for Ford. Japaneese engineers still make most Mazda cars. Mazda has nothing to do with a Mustang.

Sil_Pro5

Yes, the Z24 motor does only make a 150hp but, the new GM 2.2L EcoTec motor makes 140hp (or 145hp-not sure which.)and is a clean running engine. then, in Europe (Britain), GM sells a 2.0L version of the EcoTec motor-turbocharged to 200bhp!! Hows that for no power?! My "awesome" and my almighty japanese Protege'5 has only a 130hp ( although I LOVE my Pro5-just not the engine!)

people focus way too much on hp per litre ratings and 0-60 time rather than the whole driving experience and most of all-HAVING FUN!!!

and the SE-R Spec V DOES have 175hp! obviously youre a newbie to the car scene and whove never dynoed or read the articles about it. that 145hp or so the Spec V made was to THE WHEELS!!!!!!!!!

sorry for the rant guys! had to do it!!!!!

JustinMP3

Yea more HP but look at Torqe, and take that into consideration. If the mazda 1.8 was as weak on torqe as the honda it would have more HP even on scale (1.6, 1.8) That is why it is a better engine ALL MAZDAS

JustinMP3

You are exactly right my friend

mixmaster_matt

My friend has a 2001 z24 and it is pretty quick, and it will definitely beat a Pro, sorry to say. For the price, it is a nice car. But the one bad thing about it is it cuts out at 105, and that is beat.