whomped 02 Cavalier
December-9th-2004, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by juddz
.. but if going fast in a straight line is all that matters, go buy a Mustang!
You obviously havent driven an '05 Mustang...They handle very well...first new chassis since '79!!
December-9th-2004, 05:28 PM
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I'm saying that best performance bang for the buck is the SRT4. No'one says "chevy cavalier" and thinks of interior quality and refined handling....it just doesn't happen. And the Cobalt is a re-skinned cavy.
Torquesteer on the SRT4?? Yeah I noticed some...about as much as my msp had. It was VERY liveable especially considering the 04+ models have LSD stock.
I admit the interior is a little cheap on the neon but what do you expect when you're buying an econo-car with that kind of performance?? It's not going to have suede seats or hand stitched leather interior.
As for the rear windows being cranks...it was done as weight savings,...not cost savings.
p.s. the 05 Stangs are going to be lighting up some fools. With the popularity behind the mustang and the HUGE aftermarket it won't be a month after release before you start seeing these things running 10's at the track.
Torquesteer on the SRT4?? Yeah I noticed some...about as much as my msp had. It was VERY liveable especially considering the 04+ models have LSD stock.
I admit the interior is a little cheap on the neon but what do you expect when you're buying an econo-car with that kind of performance?? It's not going to have suede seats or hand stitched leather interior.
As for the rear windows being cranks...it was done as weight savings,...not cost savings.
p.s. the 05 Stangs are going to be lighting up some fools. With the popularity behind the mustang and the HUGE aftermarket it won't be a month after release before you start seeing these things running 10's at the track.
December-9th-2004, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
I'm saying that best performance bang for the buck is the SRT4. No'one says "chevy cavalier" and thinks of interior quality and refined handling....it just doesn't happen. And the Cobalt is a re-skinned cavy.
Torquesteer on the SRT4?? Yeah I noticed some...about as much as my msp had. It was VERY liveable especially considering the 04+ models have LSD stock.
I admit the interior is a little cheap on the neon but what do you expect when you're buying an econo-car with that kind of performance?? It's not going to have suede seats or hand stitched leather interior.
As for the rear windows being cranks...it was done as weight savings,...not cost savings.
p.s. the 05 Stangs are going to be lighting up some fools. With the popularity behind the mustang and the HUGE aftermarket it won't be a month after release before you start seeing these things running 10's at the track.
Torquesteer on the SRT4?? Yeah I noticed some...about as much as my msp had. It was VERY liveable especially considering the 04+ models have LSD stock.
I admit the interior is a little cheap on the neon but what do you expect when you're buying an econo-car with that kind of performance?? It's not going to have suede seats or hand stitched leather interior.
As for the rear windows being cranks...it was done as weight savings,...not cost savings.
p.s. the 05 Stangs are going to be lighting up some fools. With the popularity behind the mustang and the HUGE aftermarket it won't be a month after release before you start seeing these things running 10's at the track.
Well...there goes the rest of the worlds gasoline.....thanks alot FORD!!!
December-9th-2004, 09:07 PM
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??? you assume since the mustang is a V8 it's going to drink a lot of gas? It actually runs on 87 octane (300hp 320lb/ft at that) and still gets better highway mileage than my P5 thanks to the new cleaner burning / more efficient 3 valve heads.
P.s. I've seen newer corvette's get 38mpg on the interstate with a 6.0L motor.
P.s. I've seen newer corvette's get 38mpg on the interstate with a 6.0L motor.
December-9th-2004, 09:40 PM
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Uh oh, did I help this one derail?
So many cars out there...and not a one of them totally 'perfect' in every way! I wish my little wagon had the AWD and turbo of the WRX but noooooooooooooo! I miss the rumble of my GT 5.0, I loved the Cavy's 2.8l v6, my Jetta was so much fun to drive and great on gas, and so on and so forth.
Did I mention that Fiat Bertone X 1/9 I used to have? It was yellow...and black
So many cars out there...and not a one of them totally 'perfect' in every way! I wish my little wagon had the AWD and turbo of the WRX but noooooooooooooo! I miss the rumble of my GT 5.0, I loved the Cavy's 2.8l v6, my Jetta was so much fun to drive and great on gas, and so on and so forth.
Did I mention that Fiat Bertone X 1/9 I used to have? It was yellow...and black
December-10th-2004, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by macdaddyslomo
You obviously havent driven an '05 Mustang...They handle very well...first new chassis since '79!!
December-10th-2004, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
And the Cobalt is a re-skinned cavy.
December-10th-2004, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
??? you assume since the mustang is a V8 it's going to drink a lot of gas? It actually runs on 87 octane (300hp 320lb/ft at that) and still gets better highway mileage than my P5 thanks to the new cleaner burning / more efficient 3 valve heads.
P.s. I've seen newer corvette's get 38mpg on the interstate with a 6.0L motor.
P.s. I've seen newer corvette's get 38mpg on the interstate with a 6.0L motor.
You know what's really cool? Chrysler's 5.7L Hemi has a cylinder deactivation system that was designed into the engine. Spark and fuel are cut, and the valves are disabled by a pin sliding out of the lifter, which allows it to telescope (but not act on the rockers). This saves fuel at cruising speed, and results in a 10-15% economy gain overall. Unlike the old GM 8-6-4, this MDS system (as Chrysler calls it) is completely transparent to the user. And, we now have the electronics technology to make this kind of thing work reliably in a production car. GM is also implementing this kind of technology in some of their engines, but I don't remember which.
December-10th-2004, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Roddimus Prime
I wish my car had a LSD and some thick-*** axles and I'd be happy.
...looks like you will be happy before I will!
