telegraph races...
 

last week i was at the telegraph races. everyone was having a good time. shit...i even saw this one dude on a crotch rocket race a guy and beating him doing a wheelie..insane?? anyhow my friend in his o2 civic with a cold air intake vs my bone stock 99 protege lx...1, 2, 3...going,going,....gone. hehe totally smoked him. then i was in another race when this 89 nissan 240 sx pulls up. i was like" dude you're gonna kill me". 1,2,3. me and the 240 sx racing and next minute he's gone..dam nissan's? :bs: so later we're watching all these sweet ass cars when a primered civic hatch-back(total sleeper) vs a 2004 mustang GT. lets just say that ford was definietly put to shame..that freaking civic was one fast puppy!! ;pee; now comes the comes the buzzkill. i'm about to leave the races when 20 cop cars show up and baracade everyone in there was like 75-100 cars in this little one-way strip. every car got a 6 point ticket for drag racing including me, my brother, and my friend. yah..that was really gay. so screw the races i am definietly never going there again :eatme:

*sigh*.......street racing. So cool.

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...this, after I posted all that stuff about cheap and easy racing in Michigan? If you think your Protege is all that and a bag o'chips, then I guess you wouldn't have a problem showing up at Milan with it. Thirty five bucks to race in the brackets. And, there isn't a primered Civic in the world that can beat some of the cars that run there. I can think of a certain all-glass bodied Willys that hits over 200 in the quarter there. After you see that shit, you'll realize that playing in the street is for boys...

As for me, I am going to drop my cash on running at Waterford Hills on July 9 (open track day). I might not be the fastest out there, but I will promise you this:
1) I won't get a ticket
2) I will have it wide-open far more often than you could hope for on Telegraph Road
3) The pavement is smooth, curvy, and sweet (as opposed to straight and potholed, as it is on Telegraph road)
4) I will able to play with the best asset any Protege has... its excellent handling.

Since when is mazda (besides rx7) known for is drag strip capabilities and awesome quarter-mile times? I personally hate drag racing (been there done that). Stick to the moutain roads or road coarses.

fyi, rx7's aren't known for their drag racing skills...quite the contrary. They are just the most powerful Mazda's...

To the general public they are known for drag racing, all thanks to that one lame movie.

...precisely why I say head to the racecourse, take in some curves, and enjoy the sweet handling of our rides. Frankly, any FWD car (whether its a Civic or a Protege) is at a serious disadvantage in a drag race. Sure, there are 8 and 9 second professionally-built and raced fwd compacts out there. But, it is a lot cheaper/ easier to go that fast in a RWD car. Hell, I assume that most of us here are smack dab in the 16+ second range! Keep in mind a lightly breathed on SRT-4 Neon will do the 1/4 in 14 seconds... and that is a 230-hp car!

I also have to agree with Matty on the RX7. RWD and relatively powerful (by Mazda standards), it's no champ on the dragway. Again, enjoy it for what it is (a kick-ass sports car).

yea i had my share of racing on the streets. i'm not ever going to do that sh*t anymore. i definietly learned my lesson. but anyhow i'm really trying hard to get some pics for you guys to see. i just finished the bodykit today. that dam thing took me and my boy 17hrs to cut, grind, fit,and screw. the reason why it took so long is because of the front end damage. but now i have to fabricate my oem seat brackets onto my APC racing seat because the oem seat is like 2" longer...yah just what i needed is more work!! Also i'm researching on how i can convert my auto pro to a manual!! thats ganna be some work! probably get a miata or speed6 engine and even stick a turbo kit on the new engine. not only that, i want to do all the work. i'm most likely have to buy like a $500 cluncker as a 2nd car? i'm sure you guys can give me some pointers!!

....you can't be serious...

serious but probably not well informed.

Yeah man, those mazdaspeed 6's are badass, especailly if you slap a turbo on there.






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See you guys are lucky we do not have any road coarses here in AL (drag strips galore). I would love to hit a road coarse but do not have the oppertunity to drive out of state I get the urge to run so I love drag strips especially going up there with friends that have modded cars as well, its always fun to run your friends in a legal enviroment if you ask me and not to mention it is a great way to see how much you modding has paid off...

bwahahaah, I never understood mazda making a car that is .1s faster than their best selling V6 5spd car. That just plain sucks. I was all excited about it also. I was telling Miller how I ws goingt o buy one when it came out ....and then they released the specs......bleh.

Yeah, we were both excited about the AWD turbo setup... till we found out how weakass it was. And how not-goodlooking it was. I was saddened. I'd take a v-6 wagon over the MS6 anyday.

....lets not forget that the Mazdaspeed6 has plenty of power. Unforunately, it also has plenty of extra weight to carry around. That powertrain would likely be badass in a fwd car without all of the body add-ons, etc.

Way back in the sixties, performance cars were clean and simple, and often had very few options. In fact, "delete" options (i.e. leaving the otherwise standard radio out at the factory in performance models) were commonplace. These days, serious no-frills performance cars with the bare minimum of gadgetry are few and far between. The Evo MR and the dearly departed Neon ACR are the only notable exceptions that I can think of.

exactly. After riding in Wagners EvoRS I can honestly say that not having a radio or power windows is no biggee....trust me you spend very little time in an EvoRS listening to anything other than the engine!

hey whats going on dude? I wanted to know if you can give me some advice on an engine/tranny package to swap into my protege 99. the tranny on my protege is starting to give and miles are piling up(130,000mi & climbing). also i will be converting the protege to manual. yes..i know lots of money!! but i know the right people at a performance shop near my house who specializes in 4cyl,& 6cyl engines who could do the work. just wanted to know what the guys here think of it first. oh btw: i want a turbo setup. :bt:

stick with whatever your stock engine is. Have the internals replaced with forged/lightened pieces. Invest in a good standalone EMS like the AEM or Haltech E6X tocontrol everything. Upgrade your fuel system, source a manual tranny and buy a high performance clutch and flywheel. Pick out a good turbo kit with a properly sized turbo and decent FMIC.

And when you're done let me know where your money tree is planted so I can sit under it sometime.

...why don't you wander around the corner to that shop by your house, and have them add up everything you want done? Then, you can tell us all about it.

yea good idea guys thanks for the help. trust me on this one this is all comming out of my pocket. just been slaving to get some decent car parts. i will go to the shop on wednsday after my court date(for the 6-point ticket i got for being at the races) and see what they estimate for a manual conversion, and other stuff. do i have to change my axels with all of this extra power??

wow....talk aabout putting the cart before the horse.

I'm sorry man, I'm going to come off as a jerk here but it has to be said..... you dont know what you want or what you're asking for. It seems like the first thing you need to buy is a clue. Once you know a little more about cars and the prices things actually cost you'll quickly realize why no'one has done this.

In all honesty for HALF what you'd spend doing this swap you could buy a very fast beater and save yourself time and money....use the protege as a daily driver while you piddle money on the beater.....

i said i was new to all of this stuff :tool: ...it will take me a little bit to learn everything i need to know about cars!! just be patient with me; i'll probably say a bunch of stupid shit i would like to do and will most likely wont do...oh well at least i admit my mistake :cookoo:

at least you can admit your newbness without getting all irrate.

You're "want list" of mods there will easily set you back $7K+

If you plan on getting serious about building this car you need to form a budget and masterplan of what you want your end product to look/perform like. Once you make this list you should start shopping for prices....then add it up.. Take that total multiply it by 1.25 and save up that much money.

Once you get that much saved up then take a SERIOUS look at your car and say "do I really want to put this much money in this car or possibly buy a new car thats out now with it."

If you do this. I bet you'll never put that money into your protege.

...here is a good place to start. I don't know what engine you've got, and I am too lazy to do a search on your ride. This is easier for the 2.0L than it is for the smaller displacement engines, as the smaller displacement engines do not have as much aftermarket support. For all 1.6L concerns, you are lucky enough to have experts like Macdaddyslomo to help answer your questions. For 2.0L, this is what I would do if I were you:
1) e-bay intake
2) Header
3) Catless DP for Wagner shorty (not necessary if you get a long tube header)
4) MIL eliminator (for #3)
5) UR underdrive pulley
6) Low restriction exhuast (e-bay catback?)
7) Mazdaspeed/ JDM cams (intake and exhaust)
8) Lightened flywheel
That ought to keep you busy for a while, and your car would post a pretty decent gain.

SWEET...list man i really appreciate the help and advice you guys are giving me. i already have a catback system: 3ac racing muffler, and custom 2.5 piping. the CAI is still on and no i have'nt bought headders yet! i'll get that very soon. btw: i have a 1.6L dohc motor with an auto tranny. anyway i'll keep asking questions and post the mods i got? :camaro: later hommies!! anybody in the michigan area going to the whitemore lake roadhouse for the saturday drive??

thanks matt...saved me some good green man!!! good lookin :stickpoke