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macdaddyslomo June-12th-2002 05:27 PM

MX-6 vs. Protege DX
 
My best friend finally moved back to Tampa from Illinois,and he's been talking crap about his old ass '91 MX-6....let get you guys opinion...I did some research and here's what I found..his stock 2.2 ohv rates at 110 hp his car weighs in at 3700+lbs..its got 150,000 miles on it and he's bone stock....My 1.6L DOHC rates at 105hp and I weigh in at 3400 lbs...ive got 34,000 miles on mine and I did run my CAI which definitely makes an improvement but I dont know how much..both 5 speeds..I think I can whoop his ass....what do you guys think?? :evilgrin: :evilgrin:

Sir Nuke June-12th-2002 05:42 PM

I beleive you have an excellent chance.....with the power to weight ratio very close like it is....its going to boil down to things like

the launch/reaction time
traction/tires
profeciency at shifting

so go for it...and HOUND HIS ASS when you beat him. :{D

jstand6 June-12th-2002 05:47 PM

Hmmm... Your numbers are a bit off...

1991 Mazda MX-6 DX
2.2L SOHC I-4
110 hp
130 ft-lbs
2,560 lbs

2000 Mazda Protege DX
1.6L DOHC I-4
105 hp
106 ft-lbs
2,434 lbs

Are you sure his is just a base model? There's also the turbo with 35 extra hp and 60 extra ft-lbs. However, if it is a base model, you may stand a chance, but I would give the nod to the MX-6 just from sheer numbers. If his is a turbo... well, then you wouldn't stand a chance.

-Jerry

macdaddyslomo June-12th-2002 05:58 PM

dont know where you got your weight numbers....we looked at the GWVR inside the doors and his read 3765 lbs and mine read 3425lbs..so I'll believe our actual cars vs your book or website..also I know about the MX-6 and I've been under the hood of his car helping him fix it...It's an LX as in NO TURBO..the GT was the only model with turbo...also I posted mileage for a reason...anyone who knows about cars knows that high mileage engines do not maintain their original compression,and lose some horsepower...so I think he's only got me in one dept:torque,and I suspect with 150,000 miles,and an oil leak,he doesnt have me by much...plus his clutch is slipping ;)

Brubeck June-12th-2002 06:07 PM

Well hell... if his clutch is slippin, you'd beat him even if he was running turbo. :D

jstand6 June-12th-2002 06:16 PM


dont know where you got your weight numbers....we looked at the GWVR inside the doors and his read 3765 lbs and mine read 3425lbs..
Now, I don't think you know where you got your weight numbers from. GVWR stands for Gross Vehicle Weight Rating. That is the maximum weight the vehicle is designed for, including fuel, passengers, cargo, etc. Basically, this means your vehicle can carry another 991 pounds in it without going over what Mazda has determined is safe for the vehicle's suspension and brakes.

Where did I get my numbers from? I'm a certified Mazda Product Master.

-Jerry

mito7878 June-12th-2002 06:25 PM


Originally posted by macdaddyslomo
dont know where you got your weight numbers....we looked at the GWVR inside the doors and his read 3765 lbs and mine read 3425lbs..so I'll believe our actual cars vs your book or website..also I know about the MX-6 and I've been under the hood of his car helping him fix it...It's an LX as in NO TURBO..the GT was the only model with turbo...also I posted mileage for a reason...anyone who knows about cars knows that high mileage engines do not maintain their original compression,and lose some horsepower...so I think he's only got me in one dept:torque,and I suspect with 150,000 miles,and an oil leak,he doesnt have me by much...plus his clutch is slipping ;)
Sorry but jstand6 is right the weight of a 91 mx6 is 2,615 lbs and its 0-60 MPH is 9.2 sec. A lot of times there are 2 sets of numbers on the door sil. One for curb weight and one for gwvr. curb weight is unloaded and in stock form. And that would be 2,615lbs. Just for reference my P5 weighs 2700lbs give or take.


Mazda MX6 LX:

Engine: 2.2 Liter

Horsepower: 110

Torque: 130 ft-lbs

Fuel Economy: 24/31 mpg

Bore x Stoke: 3.39 x 3.7

Compression Ratio: 8.6

Curb Weight: 2,615 lbs

0 - 60 mph: 9.2 sec.



And here are the Turbo specs

Engine: 2.2 Liter

Horsepower: 145

Torque: 190 ft-lbs

Fuel Economy: 21/28 mpg

Bore x Stoke: 3.39 x 3.7

Compression Ratio: 7.8

Curb Weight: 2,705 lbs

0 - 60 mph: 7.2 sec.

mito7878 June-12th-2002 06:37 PM

And check out how low the compression ratio is on the stock mx6. Can sombody say turbo upgrade.

macdaddyslomo June-12th-2002 07:07 PM

really wasnt my point about the weight,but im still lighter,newer,and most definitely a better clutch considering my tranny got replaced 5,000 miles ago...not to mention I already nipped the turbo part in the bud,I've been under the hood of this car and there is no turbo...not to mention the LX MX-6 had NO TURBO...c'mon guys give me a brake here,I want an honest opinion,not to get flamed...I'll race him anyway and let you disbelievers know..

jstand6 June-12th-2002 07:20 PM


c'mon guys give me a brake here,I want an honest opinion,not to get flamed...I'll race him anyway and let you disbelievers know..
There's already 3 of us that said you stand a chance beating him... 3 out of the 4 people that have replied. What more do you want? We can't predict of course. I say it'll be pretty close, but it depends how bad his clutch is slipping.

Where are you guys going to race... how far, how fast? Better choose a long race to overcome his low-end torque and take advantage of your engine's better high-end.

-Jerry

Travis June-12th-2002 09:02 PM


Originally posted by macdaddyslomo
also I posted mileage for a reason...anyone who knows about cars knows that high mileage engines do not maintain their original compression,and lose some horsepower...so I think he's only got me in one dept:torque,and I suspect with 150,000 miles,and an oil leak,he doesnt have me by much...plus his clutch is slipping ;)
I got 143,000 Miles on my 1993 accord wanna run? :D

Sweedenhouse June-12th-2002 09:18 PM

Jesus, I'm rooting for the guy in the MX6 even though I don't know either of you, just cause you sound like a dumbass

Travis June-12th-2002 09:19 PM

I honestly think it will be a close race, but the mx6 might pull ahead. Its a toss up, with all the problems you say he has, you should beat em.

iroc326 June-12th-2002 09:27 PM

MX6 all the way
 
It's 1 year I have my P5. Before I had a 91 MX6 LX. I loved the 12 valve engine on the MX6....It just I had a lot of low-end torque...
The mx6 will beat the other one....

nightowl June-12th-2002 10:41 PM

i'd say its too close to call.....now if he had a 93-97 MX6 LS with a 2.5 V6 then you would be in big trouble!


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